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Re: Hmm!

by "Iain Churches" <IainNG@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 08:18 PM

"Doug Bannard" <ve3spf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Iain Churches" <IainNG@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>I wonder what the DC  resistance of a 250mA fuse might
>> be?
>>
>> I have just been speaking with a guy would told me that he
>> has replaced the fuse from the CT of the OPT of his tube
>> amp with a wire link, "because the fuse adds to the power
>> supply impedance and does not have a linear response"
>>
>> He could not quote any reference to substantiate this.
>>
>> I wonder what the audio bandwidth impedance of a
>> 250mA fuse might be? -)
>>
>> Compared to the cost of an OPT, the fuse seems to be a
>> good component for such a small investment.
>>

> Here's the Littelfuse data for a standard 3AG type fast blow 250mA fuse.
> The cold DCR is 2 ohms.
>
> http://www.littelfuse.com/data/en/Data_Sheets/312_318.pdf
>
> I know that the DCR of these things does change over a cycle, the amount
> of change being dependent on issues that determine fuse heating such as:
>
> 1) Ambient temperature.
> 2) Air flow over fuse.
> 3) How close to the fuse rating is the rms current you're passing
through
> it.
> 4) Current waveform.
>
> I have never seen any numbers (that looked to be from a reliable source)
> showing the magnitudes of the DCR change.
>
> I always include fuses (of about 250mA) in the CT of the output
> transformers of my own amplifiers.

Hi Doug.

It seems to me to be such a good idea, that I wondered
why it is not more common. If an output tube shorts, then the
replacement of that tube and the fuse is a much more palatable
proposition than the replacement of both tube and OPT

>
> There's an easy way to either put the boots to or substantiate this as a
> problem.  Find someone with an Audio Precision System 2 with DSP option
> (there is a newer model available now...see Audio Precision site) and
> simply do a THD test with and without the fuse.  When you look at the
> spectrum that the AP has plotted, you will see immediately if this issue
> is fact or fable.

I have a HP distortion analyzer, so I could plot distortion across the
audio
bandwidth at various power levels with the fuse or with a link in its
place.

But then again, this is one of those inexplicable "audiophile" things:-)
People can hear things than none of the rest of us can measure!


Regards
Iain
 




 29 Posts in Topic:
Hmm!
"Iain Churches"  2008-04-26 14:17:34 
Re: Hmm!
"Doug Bannard"   2008-04-26 09:31:11 
Re: Hmm!
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 20:18:09 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 10:57:56 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-26 16:05:56 
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"West" <west  2008-04-26 18:38:28 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-27 12:24:23 
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RapidRonnie <rapidronn  2008-04-26 14:42:37 
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Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-04-26 16:38:28 
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"West" <west  2008-04-30 06:14:31 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-05-01 08:54:09 
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Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-04-30 21:23:32 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-27 10:27:10 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 09:25:38 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 10:15:16 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 10:29:58 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 11:56:52 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 12:15:41 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 12:04:46 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 12:18:49 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 13:08:53 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-28 01:01:31 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-28 07:00:03 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-29 04:40:46 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-04-27 15:42:58 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-28 01:12:46 
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Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-04-30 15:58:48 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-05-01 15:24:34 
Re: Hmm!
Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-05-01 05:47:44 

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