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Re: OPT equalising circuit

by John Byrns <byrnsj@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM

In article <481F1CF4.4F319A91@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Patrick Turner <info@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> John Byrns wrote:
> > 
> > In article <d_BSj.6957$ko5.2719@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >  "Alex" <apogosso@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks, Partick.
> > >
> > > Your reply is constructive and informative, unlike the other one.
> > >
> > > My case is not a Hi-Fi amplifier, but a radio with a single-ended
stage. 
> > > OPT
> > > is quite lousy. It is designed for Rl=7.5K (for 6M5, EL80 or 6F6
tube at
> > > 250V). Its leakage inductance, referred to primary is as large as
165mH 
> > > --
> > > the windings are not interleaved.
> > 
> > There is an interesting variation on this capacitor thing that you
will
> > see in some old radios.  Rather than using a single capacitor which
> > slowly rolls off the high frequency response, two capacitors are used,
> > one across the primary, and another across the secondary of the output
> > transformer.  The two capacitors, along with the leakage inductance of
> > the transformer, form a third order low pass filter.  This provides a
> > sharp cutoff to attenuate noise energy above the desired audio band
> > while providing flatter frequency response below cutoff in the desired
> > audio band, than a single capacitor can.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > John Byrns
> 
> It was quite common to use caps from anode to the B+ so thus across a
> driving triode's load
> and the OPT primary, and indeed there is a 3rd order LPF.

How do you get a 3rd order filter out of this, it looks like a 2nd order 
filter to me?


Regards,

John Byrns

-- 
Surf my web pages at,  http://fmamradios.com/
 




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OPT equalising circuit
Alex <apogosso@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 19:07:20 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-02 16:38:09 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 09:07:11 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-02 10:25:13 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 11:01:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-02 13:33:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:16:56 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-02 13:02:12 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:38:46 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-02 14:04:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:37:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:43:04 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:03:56 
"Alex The **** Head"
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:15:28 
Re: "Alex The **** Head"
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-02 13:05:26 
Re: "Alex The **** Head"
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:12:21 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:37:37 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-04 20:27:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 12:04:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:28:54 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 14:42:59 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:33:20 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:08:10 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:45:23 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 13:56:19 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 01:36:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 18:41:17 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 07:58:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 01:25:42 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-03 09:56:16 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 12:33:17 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-03 13:07:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 23:53:38 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:10:15 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 13:26:08 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-04 01:18:23 
flipper the steaming great ****head
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:29:32 
Re: flipper the steaming great ****head
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-04 04:32:48 
flipper = steaming great ****head
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 21:30:11 
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Robert Casey <wa2ise@[  2008-05-04 16:07:18 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 10:46:22 
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The Phantom <phantom@[  2008-05-03 20:55:21 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 15:44:11 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-05-04 20:29:33 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:00:43 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 14:30:28 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 10:51:34 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 10:36:58 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 15:55:30 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:04:06 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-05 09:49:00 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:55:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-05 10:23:48 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 19:16:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-04 20:36:50 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:01:49 
"Alex the Top Posting **** "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:37:35 
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"Alex" <apog  2008-05-03 05:37:51 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 16:07:03 
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flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 01:45:25 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 18:41:46 
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flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 08:02:09 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 01:26:05 
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flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 12:28:01 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting **** "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 09:47:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
mick <not.here@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 16:15:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-02 17:58:12 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 17:03:26 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-03 05:41:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:07:31 
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"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 09:26:59 
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"Alex" <apog  2008-05-06 11:29:01 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:55:59 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-06 12:57:18 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:56:26 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-06 13:59:22 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:34:54 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 09:39:08 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:00:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:30:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 15:55:59 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 16:17:16 
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"BretLudwig" &l  2008-05-04 17:45:18 
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Alex <apogosso@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 17:48:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:55:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-06 13:02:26 

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