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Re: OPT equalising circuit

by flipper <flipper@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 10:45 PM

On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:08:10 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>"Patrick Turneroid Raving Nut Case "
>> Phil Allison wrote:
>>>
>>> "Alex"
>>> >
>>> > I noticed that in most cases a capacitor or a RC circuit is
connected
>>> > across the primary of a tube OPT. It is apparently to compensate for
>>> > the leakage inductance of the transformer.
>>>
>>> ** Partly for that  PLUS the fact that most speakers have a sharply 
>>> rising
>>> impedance curve at high and supersonic frequencies.   A nominal 8 ohm
>>> speaker at 250 Hz can easily be 100 ohms at 50 kHz.
>>>
>>> > However, I am not sure how to correctly calculate this RC circuit.
>>>
>>> ** You are not alone ....
>>>
>>> > If I know my load impedance Rl,
>>>
>>> ** No you don't.
>>>
>>> You just know the  " nominal " impedance =  useless.
>>>
>>> What you need to make sure of is the amp does not break  into HF
>>> oscillations ( parasitic or continuous)  when there is no load  OR 
when
>>> under test with simulated ( or real ) speaker loads.
>>>
>>> The vast majority of tube amps have no need of such a compensation
>>> etwork  -  as the OT has little leakage and the NFB reduces to low
value 
>>> at
>>> supersonic frequencies.
>>>
>
>>
>> I don't know how many tube amps you have designed and or built or
>> repaired count. Many tube amps will oscillate at HF when connected
>> to a capacitor load.
>
>
>** Only a psychotic lunatic would deliberately connect a capacitor across

>the output of a tube audio amp.

Try measuring the capacitance of a loudspeaker.

>
>  The OP did not enquire about any such thing.
>
>
>> In order to gain unconditional stability ....
>
>
>** An unnecessary,  pedantic,  pseudo technical wank.
>
> Snip rest of the Turneroid's hobby horse ride & public masturbation.
>
>GOD  it is   BORING   !!!!
>
>
>
>
>.....   Phil 
>




 87 Posts in Topic:
OPT equalising circuit
Alex <apogosso@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 19:07:20 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-02 16:38:09 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 09:07:11 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-02 10:25:13 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 11:01:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-02 13:33:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:16:56 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-02 13:02:12 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:38:46 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-02 14:04:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:37:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:43:04 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:03:56 
"Alex The Shit Head"
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:15:28 
Re: "Alex The Shit Head"
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-02 13:05:26 
Re: "Alex The Shit Head"
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:12:21 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:37:37 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-04 20:27:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 12:04:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:28:54 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 14:42:59 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:33:20 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 10:08:10 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:45:23 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 13:56:19 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 01:36:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 18:41:17 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 07:58:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 01:25:42 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-03 09:56:16 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 12:33:17 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-03 13:07:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 23:53:38 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:10:15 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 13:26:08 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-04 01:18:23 
flipper the steaming great fuckhead
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:29:32 
Re: flipper the steaming great fuckhead
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-04 04:32:48 
flipper = steaming great fuckhead
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 21:30:11 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Robert Casey <wa2ise@[  2008-05-04 16:07:18 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 10:46:22 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
The Phantom <phantom@[  2008-05-03 20:55:21 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 15:44:11 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-04 20:29:33 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:00:43 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 14:30:28 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 10:51:34 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 10:36:58 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 15:55:30 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:04:06 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-05 09:49:00 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:55:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-05-05 10:23:48 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 19:16:55 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Iain Churches"  2008-05-04 20:36:50 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:01:49 
"Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 00:37:35 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-03 05:37:51 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 16:07:03 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 01:45:25 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-03 18:41:46 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 08:02:09 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 01:26:05 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-05-03 12:28:01 
Re: "Alex the Top Posting Cunt "
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 09:47:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
mick <not.here@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 16:15:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-02 17:58:12 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-02 17:03:26 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-03 05:41:51 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:07:31 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 09:26:59 
AM detectors, was re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 15:28:53 
Re: AM detectors, was re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-06 11:29:01 
Re: AM detectors, was re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:55:59 
Re: AM detectors, was re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-06 12:57:18 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:56:26 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-06 13:59:22 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-03 16:34:54 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Alex" <apog  2008-05-05 09:39:08 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 23:00:45 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 10:30:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-05 15:55:59 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-05 16:17:16 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"BretLudwig" &l  2008-05-04 17:45:18 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
Alex <apogosso@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 17:48:52 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:55:27 
Re: OPT equalising circuit
John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-05-06 13:02:26 

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