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Re: Hmm!

by RapidRonnie <rapidronnie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 02:42 PM

>
> > I wonder what the DC  resistance of a 250mA fuse might
> > be?
>
> Maybe an ohm or two, depending on rated thermal delay, etc.
>
> For the details, check a fuse manufacter's web sie for a data sheet, for
> example:
>
> http://www.littelfuse.com/searchresults.html?No=20&RT=Part&NN=0%3aTec...


 Rather than wondering, measuring might work better.

 Nevertheless, the high voltage low current paradigm of the tube
amplifier makes this resistance pretty irrelevant. That's the appeal
of tubes: insulation is cheaper than copper and moreover one needn't
be as obsessed with current paths.

>
> > I have just been speaking with a guy would told me that he
> > has replaced the fuse from the CT of the OPT of his tube
> > amp with a wire link, "because the fuse adds to the power
> > supply impedance
>
> Yes, but probably not signficantly.
>
> > and does not have a linear response"
>
> Fuses elements are bulk metal and are therefore linear, given that their
> temperature is not varying.
>
> However, the temperature of a fuse element is varying pretty strongly
with
> some time lag, depending on the current flow.


> > I wonder what the audio bandwidth impedance of a
> > 250mA fuse might be? -)
>
> No joke, the fuses resistance will be varying when passing a strong low
> frequency tone.
>
> > Compared to the cost of an OPT, the fuse seems to be a
> > good component for such a small investment.
>
> Given how much nonlinear distortion tubed amps have at low frequencies,
> fuses are probably not a serious problem.  If you really want to protect
a
> power amp without side-effects, you'll probably use other means.

 Fuses used properly are not a serious problem, and neither is the
distortion good tube amps make at low frequencies.

> When you say active protection are you alluding to a current crowbar
circuit?

 Often although that isn't the best way to go in most cases. One of
the best protections for tube output stages is a fuse resistor in the
cathode circuit. In fixed bias amplifiers they serve two functions:
they meter quiescent standing current and open if the bias or a tube
fails.




 29 Posts in Topic:
Hmm!
"Iain Churches"  2008-04-26 14:17:34 
Re: Hmm!
"Doug Bannard"   2008-04-26 09:31:11 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-05-05 20:18:09 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 10:57:56 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-26 16:05:56 
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"West" <west  2008-04-26 18:38:28 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-27 12:24:23 
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RapidRonnie <rapidronn  2008-04-26 14:42:37 
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Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-04-26 16:38:28 
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"West" <west  2008-04-30 06:14:31 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-05-01 08:54:09 
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Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-04-30 21:23:32 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-27 10:27:10 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 09:25:38 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 10:15:16 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 10:29:58 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 11:56:52 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 12:15:41 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 12:04:46 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-04-28 12:18:49 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-28 13:08:53 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-28 01:01:31 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-28 07:00:03 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-29 04:40:46 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-04-27 15:42:58 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-28 01:12:46 
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Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-04-30 15:58:48 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-05-01 15:24:34 
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Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-05-01 05:47:44 

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