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Re: NFB101 Crisis!

by Ian Thompson-Bell <ruffrecords@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Ian Iveson wrote:
> Ian Thompson-Bell wrote:
> 
>> Ian Iveson wrote:
>>> Ian Thompson-Bell wrote
>>>
>>>> I have just been working through the math for shunt 
>>>> derived shunt applied NFB around an amp and Ican't get 
>>>> the expected result.
>>> Is that the same as voltage derived, current applied? I 
>>> can never remember this stuff, sigh.
>>>
>> No, it's voltage derived, voltage applied. As a rule:
>>
>> Shunt = Voltage
>> Series = Current
> 
> 
> Thanks. Then how come your circuit employs "shunt derived" 
> feedback?
> 

Sorry, don't understand - the feedback network is fed from the output 
voltage i.e. across or shunting the output. Is that what you mean?

> And perhaps you could answer the question you cut out from 
> my post, considering I was good enough to answer yours:
> 

My apologies, I must have missed it.

> "Your maths is correct or we're both wrong.
> 
> "I don't know if it helps to see it as Ao/(1+ß.(1+Ao))
> 

Yes, I had it as that to start with but changed it to 'show' the anomoly.

> "You haven't explained why you believe there is an anomaly.
> What led you to your erroneous expectation?"
> 

I had expected *all* NFB forms (however derived or applied) to reduce to 
Ao/(1+ß.Ao) but this one does not.

Cheers

ian




 21 Posts in Topic:
NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 13:09:24 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Andre Jute <fiultra1@[  2008-04-22 09:58:49 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Ian Iveson" &l  2008-04-23 03:07:00 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-23 10:19:48 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Ian Iveson" &l  2008-04-23 18:01:09 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-23 23:03:12 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Ian Iveson" &l  2008-04-24 01:01:57 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-24 10:33:15 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Ian Iveson" &l  2008-04-24 11:17:34 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-24 15:54:05 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-24 17:02:14 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-23 11:04:06 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Alex" <apog  2008-04-23 12:14:33 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-23 13:34:18 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-23 17:07:55 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-24 08:02:52 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-24 10:35:57 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-24 17:11:04 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Alex" <apog  2008-04-24 09:52:58 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
"Alex" <apog  2008-04-24 09:59:30 
Re: NFB101 Crisis!
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-04-24 15:48:32 

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