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Re: Wot? No tube mixer??

by "Iain Churches" <IainNG@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 09:13 PM

"John Byrns" <byrnsj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:byrnsj-7E6938.11355723042008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <480F45FF.BADC96DF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> John Byrns wrote:
>>
>> >  Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > > John Byrns <byr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Correct, but the parallel connected lamps in your house are feed 
>> > > > from
>> > > > what is essentially a constant voltage source, not a constant 
>> > > > current
>> > > > source.  If you house hold power was supplied by a constant
current
>> > > > source, each time you turned on another lamp the ones that were 
>> > > > already
>> > > > on would get dimmer, and if you had only one lamp on it probably
>> > > > wouldn't last very long before burning out.
>> > >
>> > > Um - let's make sure I understand this correctly - current is
limited
>> > > by the fuse on each individual leg. *BUT*  the amount of current
>> > > relative to the individual devices is unlimited, the fuse being the
>> > > actual controlling factor? That makes more sense - But if the 
>> > > filament
>> > > winding is sufficiently robust (and it should be in a well-designed
>> > > transformer), would this not be essentially the same condition -
the
>> > > tube filament (heater) becoming the de-facto fuse?
>> >
>> > Peter, the point was that the lights in your house that you were 
>> > talking
>> > about are feed from a voltage source, not a current source as is
being
>> > discussed in this (sub) thread.
>>
>> It seems to be your misunderstanding that a *current source* was what
was
>> being
>> considered.
>
> You are quite correct, I misinterpreted "current limited" to mean
> "current source", my mistake.  My error resulted from Iain's statement
> "A current limiter for tube heaters. People are keen to use voltage
> regulation, which doesn't seem to me to be so important."  Which lead me
> to think he was talking about using a current regulator to replace
> heater "voltage regulation" whose value he discounted.
>
>> My understanding was a regulated voltage with a *current limit* which
is
>> quite
>> different. The current limit might be set for say 110% of Inominal and 
>> would
>> only kick in during the warm-up period.
>
> Well at least a "current limit" if you read Iain's original statement
> which didn't imply "voltage regulation".
>
>> In any case since both tubes would be receiving the same heater voltage

>> your
>> point is moot.
>
> I don't see how that follows unless it can be shown that the heater
> voltage would be within the specification for the tubes in question.
>

Hello John.. Because tubes heaters are happy +/- 5% and it is pretty
easy to get 6V3 spot on, I did not think the voltage regulation to
be too important. But current limiting would be much more useful to
me.

Regards
Iain




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Wot? No tube mixer??
"Iain Churches"  2008-04-21 12:30:36 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-21 15:54:02 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-21 17:34:01 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-21 20:22:17 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-21 23:44:39 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 07:17:45 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 12:38:41 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 14:58:33 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 14:05:10 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 16:29:02 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 14:52:52 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 17:14:06 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 16:04:21 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 18:41:29 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 17:42:47 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 20:23:19 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 19:21:29 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 19:14:32 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 21:20:47 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 20:09:46 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 23:28:17 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 23:43:21 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 11:58:11 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 14:45:46 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 13:02:01 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 15:31:46 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-04-22 15:57:38 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 18:23:06 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 19:11:16 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 21:29:17 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-22 08:41:15 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 14:54:19 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 17:20:49 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-22 09:33:20 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 18:30:26 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-22 13:43:05 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 22:14:36 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 21:28:32 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 16:40:06 
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"J.Koning" <  2008-04-22 19:29:41 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 20:49:01 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-04-23 10:41:49 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 08:51:24 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 09:58:37 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 20:40:29 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 21:14:02 
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"J.Koning" <  2008-04-23 21:26:23 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 22:57:25 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 21:29:54 
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"J.Koning" <  2008-04-23 23:35:55 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 23:26:30 
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"J.Koning" <  2008-04-23 22:41:31 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-24 07:37:08 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-24 06:52:45 
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"J.Koning" <  2008-04-24 10:00:43 
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mick <not.here@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 19:14:23 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-21 23:45:48 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-04-22 04:23:15 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-22 14:50:03 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-04-22 07:03:36 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-22 09:24:21 
Re: Wot? No tube mixer??
mick <not.here@[EMAIL   2008-04-22 17:56:57 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 19:41:42 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-04-22 12:12:37 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-23 09:06:30 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 15:21:51 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-04-23 11:35:57 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 21:13:08 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-04-23 20:57:02 
Re: Wot? No tube mixer??
mick <not.here@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 10:55:58 

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