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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day, Boss!

by Andre Jute <fiultra@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 17, 2008 at 05:34 PM

Anonymous "keithr" <kei...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Peter Wieck" <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>
news:7e146691-3e55-4efa-9630-a2108c0f7013@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mar 17, 3:19 pm, flipper <flip...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:29:33 +0200, "Iain Churches"
>
> >> <Iai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> >"Peter Wieck" <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>
>news:b2884b82-ee97-487a-a319-095efdd2f0e2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us)
> >> >> AppleWebKit/523.15.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Safari/
> >> >> 523.15,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> >> >From where do you get this info, Peter?
>
> >> In Outlook Express, right click on the message in the preview pane
and
> >> select properties, then the details tab.
>
> > Yep. That's the way. Each reader has its own very similar system, but
> > the end-results are the same.
> > Every machine has a unique signature which cannot be disguised by the
> > "typical" anonymous remailer - at least not since 9/11. One cannot get
> > (easily) to a location or an original e-mail address, but one can
> > determine whether the same machine sent various messages.
>
> I think that you actually mean an anonymous proxy rather than
remailer,but
> that is a quibble, the effect is the same.

Where do you get the infernal cheek from to call yourself a "computer
expert" and waste our bandwidth for weeks now with your computer
inanities, anonymous keifer? Quite contrary to what you say, it is a
proxy server *and* it anonymises the mail and remails it to the proxy
it has found. It is not a quibble. It is what protects Gray and me
from s*** like you and Worthless Wiecky harassing our ISP. It is what
makes poor Worthless Wiecky's touted expose ludicrous. (In addition to
his errors and/or lies about what the data proves -- below I show that
the data is "unique" to hundreds of thousands of computers!)

>The headers have nothing to do
> with 9/11, they have been a part of usenet fron the start, just delve
back
> in google groups an look at old messages.

I wonder if Worthless Wiecky will apologize to people for telling them
that lie, or if Poopie, another supposed "computer expert". will
apologize for letting Worthless Wiecky's ignorance pass.

> The information above doesn't actually pin it to a machine since a proxy
was
> used, however it is unusual enough to make it fairly certain that both
> messages came from joot.

ROTFLOL. See below about 297,000 "unique" instances.

And, even if you could pin the information to unique machine, guess
what, it would be the unique machine at the proxy *server*, which
sends it to the proxy used, which forwards it to Google.

>Funny, if he wasn't such an Apple nazi, and had
> used outlook express, nobody would have noticed.

> > What set me onto it was that there were two message within eight
> > minutes of each other at 2:46am and 2:54am both Irish time. One
> > through a South African remailer, one through a Pacific Rim remailer.
> > Go figure. And, South Africa is two hours different from Ireland such
> > that the time-stamps could not work anyway - nor a Pacific Rim time-
> > stamp of course.
>
> > It is really too bad. Andre could have made a much more credible
> > effort simply by going to a local internet cafe or computer seller and
> > ask for a demonstration or some such. He must have been drinking (more
> > than usual, that is) to be caught in so transparent a lie. Or he could
> > have messed with the time-stamp on his computer making the lie less
> > obvious.
>
> It is even easier than that (on a PC at least) all you need is a usb
storage
> key and you can disguise everything other than your IP address and that
is
> what proxies are for
>
>
>
> > Equally too bad that the Italian Sock-Puppet e-mails are so far back -
> > it might have been possible to discern the origin of them as well very
> > likely putting Andre into another lie.
>
> What was the sockpuppet's name? very little gets lost on the internet,
it
> may still be possible to check.
>
>
>
> > Ah, well...
>
> > Peter Wieck
> > Wyncote, PA
>
> Jootie has been caught by his unique mixture of arrogance and ignorance,
> arrogant enough to think that nobody was clever enough to notice,

To notice what, anonymous keefie? You just finished explaining, though
as always you did only half a job, that the information supplied
identifies nothing unique.

>and
> ignorant enough to be unable to do anything about it.

I don't need or want to do anything about it. I asked Gray to help me
set a trap for you self-declared "computer experts" and have succeeded
in making you lot look foolish beyond my fondest expectation. I expect
to make you look even more foolish in the rash of mutual incrimination
and self-justification and pure simple hysterics which will now follow
as day follows night.

> Keith

Welcome to Professor Jute's online motivational psychology laboratory,
Keefer. Mind that some of the other rats don't mistake you for lunch.

If you've wondered why I'm called The Boss, you're about to find out.

Andre Jute
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Happy St Patrick's Day, Boss!
glassgray@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-16 17:46:47 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-16 17:54:49 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:56:45 
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flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-03-18 20:49:10 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 16:15:38 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 16:19:11 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-19 11:32:14 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-19 00:08:59 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 20:12:22 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 20:25:39 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-03-17 03:52:32 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-17 20:29:33 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-17 20:02:18 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-17 11:02:58 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-03-17 17:19:45 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-03-17 17:20:03 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-17 17:34:00 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-03-18 09:24:47 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-17 18:10:37 
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Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-03-17 18:59:08 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-17 21:10:03 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-17 21:12:47 
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flipper <flipper@[EMAI  2008-03-18 04:36:10 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-03-18 11:41:14 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-17 21:36:42 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-18 16:58:44 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-18 17:48:28 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-03-18 09:29:46 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-03-19 16:00:04 
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John Byrns <byrnsj@[EM  2008-03-19 18:23:50 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-20 10:11:13 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-24 14:07:53 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-24 20:29:10 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-24 22:02:15 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-25 19:41:29 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-24 21:10:46 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-24 15:42:30 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-25 08:07:35 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-25 09:56:41 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-25 19:43:20 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-25 14:58:12 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-25 21:28:14 
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Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-03-25 14:08:46 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-19 21:16:53 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-20 10:10:48 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-24 14:14:46 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-03-24 14:13:55 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-20 10:09:29 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <nos  2008-03-20 12:00:38 
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David R Brooks <davebX  2008-03-21 08:26:22 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-24 20:08:08 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-25 12:56:06 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-25 23:40:03 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <nos  2008-03-25 12:49:12 
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"Iain Churches"  2008-03-18 19:35:40 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-18 06:37:18 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-18 06:40:03 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-18 06:41:06 
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glassgray@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-18 14:40:10 
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Jon Yaeger <jono_1@[EM  2008-03-18 19:31:15 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:29:52 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:40:54 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:42:02 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:44:47 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 15:48:32 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:13:56 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-19 11:25:39 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:20:47 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-19 12:58:13 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-03-19 08:59:54 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:23:32 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:25:10 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:26:23 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 17:34:22 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-19 15:12:19 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 20:05:30 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-18 20:19:30 
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"keithr" <ke  2008-03-19 19:36:28 
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Andre Jute <fiultra@[E  2008-03-19 16:08:32 
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