> =A0The only closed shop of Jews is in the top levels-crafts people have
> an edge, but a finite one only, if they're in the tribe. They will get
> the gig over a goy only if it's a dead heat in terms of a choice.
thats why as a goy boy I am a honorary M.O.T. and don't have
problems..... I go to seder, very occasionally temple, have many MOT
friends and clients, and uh, well I can't say in a public forum ;). of
course adding stein to you name doesn't hurt!.... and if you take me
too seriously, well you shouldn't