"Major Jocelyn" <majorj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Trevor Wilson a écrit :
>> "Major Jocelyn" <majorj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Trevor Wilson a écrit :
>>>> "EADGBE" <hwbosshoss@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> Thanks for taking the time to reply, but I have to say that you seem
>>>>> to be too biased against "old stuff" to really be able to give me a
>>>>> thoughtful answer.
>>>> **Incorrect. I am merely providing a thoughtful, concise answer. I am
>>>> intimately familiar with old equipment.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to insult you, but it does seem to
>>>>> me that you are one of those who thinks that "old = bad" and "new =
>>>>> good".
>>>> **Nonsense. I am one of those who thinks that old, crappy = bad. Old,
>>>> good = good.. New, crappy = bad. New, good = good.
>>>>
>>>>> You said it yourself - people are paying big bucks for vintage gear
>>>>> like this. You have to ask yourself: WHY are they doing it?
>>>> **They're deluded.
>>> Totally Wrong! You can get awesome piece of vintage equipment for the
>>> price you will pay for new crappy stuff.
>>
>> **Wrong. You MIGHT get a piece of adequately functioning equipment. Or
>> not. You might end up with a piece of junk wich requires vast sums to
be
>> spent, in order to bring it up to a reasonable level of performance.
>>
>>>> If there
>>>>> is one area where people are very picky about getting what they paid
>>>>> for, it is in the area of home audio. If there wasn't such a demand
>>>>> for certain pieces of vintage gear, the prices wouldn't be as high
as
>>>>> they are. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR more often than not!
>>>> **Nope. More often that not, you get crap, at high prices.
>>> I see that you really but really don't know what you are talking
about.
>>
>> **Really? Let me outline _my_ experience for you:
>>
>> * 1974-1979 - Service manager for Marantz Australia.
>> * 1979 - Now - Service tech for my own business. I've serviced
thousands
>> of different products, including many Pioneers. Unlike you, I KNOW
>> exactly what is wrong with 1970s vinage equipment.
>>
>> The old Pioneers are better than some and worse than others, in both
>> design and construction. In all cases, they cannot come close to
modern,
>> PROPERLY designed equipment, in performance on a Dollar for Dollar
basis.
>> Second hand prices are, of course, difficult to assess. I can tell you,
>> however, that 1970s equipment tends to be over-priced.
>>
>> Now: Tell me about YOUR experience. How many old Pioneers have you
>> serviced?
>>
>>
>> Trevor Wilson
> I have own several Pioneer receivers and amp (starting with the
> SX-626,going to the SX-939 then the SA-9900) followed by Kenwood KA-9100
> then Sansui CA-3000 Preamp with Dynaco ST-400 power Amp followed by
> Radford SC-242 Preamp and Quad 405 Power Amp and Finally since 1990 the
> Luxman L-550. All these component are still working perfectly.
**You don't know that. You're guessing. I promise you this: After 30
years,
no amplifier will meet it's published specs, unless you've replaced every
electrolytic cap in the product. Of the specific products you mentioned, I
have a great deal of experience with the Luxman, the Quad, the Dynaco and
the Pioneers. ALL suffer from dried out electros. Amongst other things.
I gave
> the CA-3000/Dynaco ST-400 to a kid (22 years old is a kid for me) a
couple
> weeks ago. I admit that I had to replace some capacitor on the Quad and
> the Dynaco + cleaning of the other one but as I said they all work
> perfectly. As for my Experience, I work as a senior salesmen in a Hi-Fi
> chain so I know by the quatity of receivers that stop working after
being
> in use for less than 2 years that today's stuff do not have the quality
of
> construction and design that the vintage stuff do.
**Utter nonsense. You can buy decent quality modern equipment, as well as
crap.
> And unlike you I do not make a living servicing NEw equipment.
**I make a living servicing new and old equipment. The old stuff is
nothing
special. A lot of the new stuff is nothing special.
Trevor Wilson
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