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Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology

by "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 08:39 PM

Dave Platt wrote:


> In article <4823a2ee$0$12942$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Green Xenon [Radium] <glucegen1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


> 
>> Hi:
>>
>> Creative Music Synth is my favorite soundcard-MIDI-synth.
>>
>> Sadly for me, Creative Technology does not want to talk about Creative 
>> Music Synth. I've contacted them in almost any way, shape, and form but

>> not gotten any good info. 


> 
> You'd probably be *much* better off if you go back one step further in
> the technology chain.  Skip Creative entirely, and go right to the
> people who developed the chips and drivers used to create this synth
> that you love so much - Yamaha.  
> 
> See http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp_opl3.html
for a project for creating a
> modern MIDI synthesizer, using the very same Yamaha OPL FM-
> synthesis chips that you're so fond of.  They've got links to a large
> amount of data about FM synthesis, including copies of the datasheets
> for some of the Yamaha chips.


Thanks for the link.


> 
>>                             I rarely get a response and when I do, it's

>> usually crap. They told me, SB PCI 128 and Ensoniq contains Creative 
>> Music Synth. I already knew they were wrong because one of my friends 
>> has both those cards. I've checked the MIDI output for both those cards

>> -- no Creative Music Synth. Creative Technology are a bunch of liars.
> 
> I suspect that "Creative Music Synth" is entirely a marketing term -
> it means whatever Creative wants it to mean, and is *NOT* limited to
> meaning what you personally feel that it ought to mean.


I doubt it, you have to go into the control panel and into the 
audio/MIDI devices tab to find "Creative Music Synth [220]"


> 
>> I feel like ...
> 
> 	Flamage snipped.
> 	
> I think that you should do three things, Radium.
> 
> The first, is that you should study FM synthesis yourself, based on the
> large amount of easily-available documentation and the other projects
> being put together by FM synthesis aficiandos like yourself.  Don't
> get all huffy, and expect Creative to disclose their own intellectual
> property to you for free (or at all).  They don't owe it to you, or
> anyone else, to do so.    Do your own homework.


Yup, Creative Technology are stubborn feces.


> 
> The second, is that you should consult a good lawyer.  That lawyer may
> be able to help you figure out which aspects of FM synthesis are now
> in the public domain (and which you could use freely), and which
> aspects are still covered under patents by Yamaha or others (and which
> you might not be able to use without licensing).


Yamaha is a lot friendlier than Creative Technology. Sadly for me, there 
is a good chance that Creative Technology made modifications to the OPL3 
[which affect audio characteristics] before soldering it onto their SB16 
ISA cards.


> 
> While you're at it, ask the lawyer to explain to you just why making
> explicit public threats of torture, death, stalking, and other
> nastiness are a Really Bad Idea, and how very unpleasant you would
> likely find it to be hauled in by the authorities for making same.


Yeah, after 9/11, we gotta be careful what they say. Damn CIA/NSA 
scumbags. Using 9-11 as an excuse to mistreat American citizens and 
invade their privacies.

The following is OT but I'll post it anyway. Read about the horrors 
perpetrated by the NSA/CSS against US citizens:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.2600/browse_frm/thread/152d17249e3e53ef/349fa4c99142f19b?hl=en&lnk=st&q=glucegen1%40excite.com+nsa#

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_frm/thread/d3d662b66b41c0ee/b795548431f58b42?hl=en&lnk=st&q=glucegen1%40excite.com+nsa#b795548431f58b42

Careful, though. It has bad words.




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OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-08 18:03:44 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-09 02:30:00 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-08 20:29:34 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 18:37:22 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-08 20:39:24 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-08 20:58:58 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"geoff" <geo  2008-05-09 13:50:24 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-08 20:26:42 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"geoff" <geo  2008-05-09 15:51:40 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-08 23:55:14 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-05-09 08:09:33 
Re: revenge against Creative Technology
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-09 11:53:52 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
dpierce.cartchunk.org@[EM  2008-05-09 05:46:49 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-09 07:49:45 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Chuck <ch@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 08:19:27 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Michael Black <et472@[  2008-05-09 15:33:48 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-09 14:06:32 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-09 15:45:41 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-09 16:18:56 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-05-09 19:13:31 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-10 01:46:38 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-05-10 13:50:52 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-13 15:50:14 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-05-13 19:46:02 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
"geoff" <geo  2008-05-14 15:00:15 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Andrew Barss <barss@[E  2008-05-14 19:02:13 
Re: OT: revenge against Creative Technology
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-10 01:20:11 

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