Re: PIONEER RECEIVERS: Which One Do I Keep?

"James" <james@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "EADGBE" <hwbosshoss@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Dave:
>>
>> BRAVO.
>>
>> I could not possibly have said it any better.
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>> It's nice to know that I'm not the only one to "hear the light", so to
>> speak.
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> Be that as it may those pioneers really do not have any features that 
> would make them any better than newer recievers.  Those both were models

> for the masses.
>
Never indicated that older was better, simply sought to dispel the
commonly 
held myth that newer is better.

And maybe, just maybe, it's not about "features" but about sound?  What
kind 
of features do you really need in an amplifier?  I could spend $24,000+ on
a 
pair of Mark Levinson monoblock amplifiers.  You know what "feature" sells

them?  The sound.  No knobs, no effects, no digital signal processor, 
surround sound, subwoofer output, HDMI interface.  No.  Analog input. 
Speaker output.  Good sound.  Hardly for everyone, but I just want to 
illustrate that there is a ****tion of the population whose #1 requirement 
isn't a system which necessarily fully integrates all audio and video 
functions into a single connected system with a single remote control.  I 
believe this is what you mean when you talk about "features"... I may be 
wrong.

I don't think anybody would buy a 70's or 80's receiver like the Pioneer 
we've been talking about as the cornerstone of their home theatre setup. 
But if your requirements are good clean two-channel sound and good build 
quality (and REALLY cheap price) then these units fit the bill perfectly.

Again, not that the masses are ready to be sold on the environmental
impact, 
but I feel good about spending a (very) few bucks repairing something
which 
is perfectly good and does what I want as opposed to buying into the
modern 
paradigm which says it's cheaper to replace than repair.  Go to your local

landfill and have a look at the gargantuan pile of electronic equipment 
awaiting destruction.