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Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?

by JosephKK <quiettechblue@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 09:33 PM

On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:41:01 +0100, Chris Siz
<default@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On Sat 03 May 2008 19:05:41, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9A936FA2EF13F451E7A@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>  Chris Siz <default@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am in the UK and have a 10m length of some cheap TV aerial
>>> coax.  It came from a discount store as a TV coax extension
>>> cable.  I measure the cable diameter as 4.8mm.
>>> 
>>> (1) Is it ok to use this sort of coax for a microphone?  I don't
>>> want an impaired audio signal.  The length I need to use is 3 to
>>> 4 metres. 
>>> 
>>> (2) Is it ok for UHF TV or is it actually quite low grade coax
>>> and prone to interference or mess up the aerial signal?
>> 
>> There are a few differences.  TV coax will work in some conditions
>> but not generally.
>> 
>> TV coax is very brittle.  The inner wire is copper-plated steel
>> and the outer shield is aluminum wire and aluminum foil.  It will
>> quickly crack where it meets the connectors.
>> 
>> TV coax may not pass small audio signals well because of its
>> aluminum shield.  Aluminum is extremely reactive so it is always
>> coated with a thin oxide layer.  Higher voltages can spark through
>> it and TV RF can capacitively couple through it.  Microphone
>> signals might become distorted.  Cable for lower frequencies uses
>> copper shielding. 
>> 
>> Good microphone and instrument cable has an insulation that drains
>> away static electrical charges.  RF coax can contain electrical
>> charges in the insulation that causes it to act like condenser
>> microphone. 
>> 
>
>I am the OP and as you can probably tell I am no electronics or 
>radio expert.  However even my limited knowledge struggles to 
>believe some of the points you have made.  
>
>Forgive me if it's more obvious to others but your's is not some 
>sort of funny posting is it?

He thinks he is earnest.  Most of these effects do occur in some
applications.  If you have read the whole thread you will have seen
even more other use case issues.  Not all of which apply to your use.
Kevin's biggest problem is that he does not know what the boundaries
of applicability are of the various things he thinks he understands.

In general, it will work OK for low fidelity / casual use.  It will
not work well, and it may be a reliability problem.  Forget about it
for good amateur or serious use.




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OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-03 10:58:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 10:10:02 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:32:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 11:19:21 
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"Theo" <theo  2008-05-03 11:16:56 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-05-05 21:21:47 
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"Bob Eld" <n  2008-05-03 13:53:54 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
a7yvm109gf5d1@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 07:54:24 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:36:05 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 17:01:19 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Martin Griffith <mart_  2008-05-03 19:54:48 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Les." <les@  2008-05-03 21:51:11 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-03 22:04:14 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-04 12:33:54 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 11:05:41 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 18:13:31 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-03 19:02:19 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 19:33:32 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 20:59:59 
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Walt Davidson <g3nyy@[  2008-05-03 19:39:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 18:41:27 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:26:45 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 12:24:18 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:24:49 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:54:55 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:19:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-03 21:23:08 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 20:28:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 01:39:37 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:50:04 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:07:53 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 11:35:25 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:21:39 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:10:31 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 21:47:33 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 13:07:17 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 14:17:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:22:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 18:51:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:02:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 22:12:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:03:39 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:51:35 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 13:02:51 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:11:40 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 10:57:38 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:30:38 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 20:19:37 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:41:01 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:47:43 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:43:30 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:33:22 
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Grimly Curmudgeon <gri  2008-05-10 11:52:22 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 21:28:46 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:27:15 
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don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 08:13:12 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 10:30:53 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 09:37:50 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 12:57:46 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:15:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:17:37 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:24:15 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:39:09 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:47:17 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:55:08 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:32:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:31:47 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 22:23:10 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-09 03:00:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-09 02:09:44 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:32:49 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 16:19:35 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 10:09:34 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:16:19 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:48:02 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:16:14 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:23:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:01:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 13:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:29:28 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:20:22 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:27:48 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:06:59 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 08:57:06 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 19:41:33 
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"Jim Gregory" &  2008-05-04 21:07:11 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-05 05:32:02 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 08:00:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:52:14 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 14:17:52 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-06 15:08:12 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:45:17 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:44:25 
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Custos Custodum <me@[E  2008-05-09 00:55:54 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 20:18:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 11:26:08 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 07:54:21 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:24:42 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:42:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:37 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:40:30 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 11:56:16 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:12:58 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
ehsjr <e.h.s.j.r.remov  2008-05-08 17:41:12 
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Spehro Pefhany <speffS  2008-05-08 14:11:27 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-08 19:19:42 
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Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-05-07 02:12:26 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 08:20:13 
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zekfrivo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 13:35:40 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 19:13:39 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 12:18:18 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 20:51:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 20:58:16 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 21:11:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 21:16:57 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Joel Koltner"   2008-05-06 18:43:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:19:22 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:32:31 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:45:21 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:58 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:29:18 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:48:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:16:10 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-08 19:22:04 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-05-06 07:23:29 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-10 13:28:16 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 13:23:41 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-11 20:38:24 

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