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Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?

by nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Pearce) May 4, 2008 at 05:39 PM

On Sun, 04 May 2008 18:24:15 +0100, Dead Paul <dead_paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:17:37 +0000, Don Pearce wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 11:15:45 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>>Dead Paul wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> no pickup inside coax.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Really?  Then you don't know much about Coaxial cables, shielding
>>>effectiveness, signal ingression and a dozen other topics.  In other
>>>words, no single shield is 100% effective.
>> 
>> And of course unless it is made of soft iron or mumetal, it doesn't
shield
>> magnetically at all.
>
>coax doesn't shield in that way. It works by cancellation and eddy
current
>effects duh!
>
Coax used normally deals with magnetic fields by having effectively no
magnetic loop area - the two conductors are running along an identical
centre line so there is no magnetic loop to pick up a signal. As soon
as you run a signal along two pieces of coax in differential mode, the
area encompassed by the resulting loop is susceptible to magnetic
pickup. Depending on how you deal with the screens, you may have a
shorted turn to help out, but maybe not. Think of how a direction
finding loop antenna works - it is fully shielded (apart from a small
break to prevent the shorted turn) and works on the magnetic component
of the received signal alone.

Twisted pair inside a single screen deals with all these potential
problems.

d
-- 
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com




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OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-03 10:58:27 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 10:10:02 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:32:34 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 11:19:21 
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"Theo" <theo  2008-05-03 11:16:56 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-05-05 21:21:47 
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"Bob Eld" <n  2008-05-03 13:53:54 
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a7yvm109gf5d1@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 07:54:24 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:36:05 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 17:01:19 
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Martin Griffith <mart_  2008-05-03 19:54:48 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-03 21:51:11 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-03 22:04:14 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-04 12:33:54 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 11:05:41 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 18:13:31 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-03 19:02:19 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 19:33:32 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 20:59:59 
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Walt Davidson <g3nyy@[  2008-05-03 19:39:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 18:41:27 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:26:45 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 12:24:18 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:24:49 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:54:55 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:19:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-03 21:23:08 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 20:28:55 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 01:39:37 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:50:04 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:07:53 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 11:35:25 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:21:39 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:10:31 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 21:47:33 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 13:07:17 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 14:17:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:22:47 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 18:51:55 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:02:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 22:12:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:03:39 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:51:35 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 13:02:51 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:11:40 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 10:57:38 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:30:38 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 20:19:37 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:41:01 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:47:43 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:43:30 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:33:22 
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Grimly Curmudgeon <gri  2008-05-10 11:52:22 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 21:28:46 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:27:15 
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don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 08:13:12 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 10:30:53 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 09:37:50 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 12:57:46 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:15:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:17:37 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:24:15 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:39:09 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:47:17 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:55:08 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:32:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:31:47 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 22:23:10 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-09 03:00:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-09 02:09:44 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:32:49 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 16:19:35 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 10:09:34 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:16:19 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:48:02 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:16:14 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:23:34 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:01:55 
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don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 13:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:29:28 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:20:22 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:27:48 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:06:59 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 08:57:06 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 19:41:33 
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"Jim Gregory" &  2008-05-04 21:07:11 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-05 05:32:02 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 08:00:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:52:14 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 14:17:52 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-06 15:08:12 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:45:17 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:44:25 
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Custos Custodum <me@[E  2008-05-09 00:55:54 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 20:18:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 11:26:08 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 07:54:21 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:24:42 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:42:55 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:37 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:40:30 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 11:56:16 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:12:58 
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ehsjr <e.h.s.j.r.remov  2008-05-08 17:41:12 
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Spehro Pefhany <speffS  2008-05-08 14:11:27 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-08 19:19:42 
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Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-05-07 02:12:26 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 08:20:13 
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zekfrivo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 13:35:40 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 19:13:39 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 12:18:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 20:51:34 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 20:58:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 21:11:47 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 21:16:57 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-05-06 18:43:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:19:22 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:32:31 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:45:21 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:58 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:29:18 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:48:34 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:16:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-08 19:22:04 
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Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-05-06 07:23:29 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-10 13:28:16 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 13:23:41 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-11 20:38:24 

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