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Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?

by Dead Paul <dead_paul@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 10:30 AM

On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:13:12 +0100, don pearce wrote:

> 
> Phil Allison wrote:
>> "Richard Crowley"
>>>> (1) Is it ok to use this sort of coax for a microphone?
>>> Not enough details to answer your question adequately. First of all,
>>> the kinds of microphones used for audio applications (reinforcement,
>>> recording, etc.) are usually balanced and require cable with two inner
>>> wires and an outside shield/screen.  If you are trying to use a
>>> balanced mic, then the cable is unsuitable because it is unbalanced.
>> 
>> 
>> ** Not true at all !!
>> 
>> There is  NO reason not to use a (suitable) co-axial type cable with a
>> microphone  -  either low or high impedance.
>> 
>> Despite all the nonsense you WILL  have read elsewhere,  co-axial
cables
>> have as good or better rejection of external hum and noise sources as
do
>> balanced twin wire cables.
>> 
>> Try it out if you don't believe this.
>> 
>> 
> Of course a proper microphone cable is SCREENED balanced twisted pair,
so
> it enjoys the multiple benefits of electric screening by the outer, the
> common mode nature of any residual interference and magnetic
interference
> cancellation by the twist in the balanced pair. A poorly screened coax
> cable such as TV coax has only a part of the first of those so this
claim
> is clearly nonsensical. If it were true, professional microphone and
mixer
> companies would not be going to the trouble of designing balanced kit.
> 
> 
>> 
>>>> The length I need to use is 3 to 4 metres.
>>> Not really important to the question.  It wouldn't make much
difference
>>> if it were 1 m or 1Km
>> 
>> 
>> **  If the mic is high impedance ( ie 50 kohms), then more than 10
>> metres or so of cable will cause high frequency response peaking and
>> early roll off as the cable capacitance loads the transformer inside
the
>> mic.
>> 
>> 
> 
>> If the mic is low impedance ( ie circa 250 ohms), then hundreds of
>> metres can be used  -   but not kilometres.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> This is true.
> 
> d

Good quality coax will do the job if you don't mind the impedance mismatch
and if you want balanced line then you could use a pair of coax feeds in
parallel (impedance about 100 ohms for rg58). Also there's coax and
there's coax, I've seen rg58 like TV down-lead and others like shrunk down
UR67M.
 

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OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-03 10:58:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 10:10:02 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:32:34 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 11:19:21 
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"Theo" <theo  2008-05-03 11:16:56 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-05-05 21:21:47 
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"Bob Eld" <n  2008-05-03 13:53:54 
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a7yvm109gf5d1@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 07:54:24 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:36:05 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 17:01:19 
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Martin Griffith <mart_  2008-05-03 19:54:48 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-03 21:51:11 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-03 22:04:14 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-04 12:33:54 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 11:05:41 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 18:13:31 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-03 19:02:19 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 19:33:32 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 20:59:59 
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Walt Davidson <g3nyy@[  2008-05-03 19:39:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 18:41:27 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:26:45 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 12:24:18 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:24:49 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:54:55 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:19:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-03 21:23:08 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 20:28:55 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 01:39:37 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:50:04 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:07:53 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 11:35:25 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:21:39 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:10:31 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 21:47:33 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 13:07:17 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 14:17:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:22:47 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 18:51:55 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:02:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 22:12:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:03:39 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:51:35 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 13:02:51 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:11:40 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 10:57:38 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:30:38 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 20:19:37 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:41:01 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:47:43 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:43:30 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:33:22 
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Grimly Curmudgeon <gri  2008-05-10 11:52:22 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 21:28:46 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:27:15 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 08:13:12 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 10:30:53 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 09:37:50 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 12:57:46 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:15:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:17:37 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:24:15 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:39:09 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:47:17 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:55:08 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:32:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:31:47 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 22:23:10 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-09 03:00:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-09 02:09:44 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:32:49 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 16:19:35 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 10:09:34 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:16:19 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:48:02 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:16:14 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:23:34 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:01:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 13:10:24 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:29:28 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:20:22 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:27:48 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:06:59 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 08:57:06 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 19:41:33 
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"Jim Gregory" &  2008-05-04 21:07:11 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-05 05:32:02 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 08:00:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:52:14 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 14:17:52 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-06 15:08:12 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:45:17 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:44:25 
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Custos Custodum <me@[E  2008-05-09 00:55:54 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 20:18:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 11:26:08 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 07:54:21 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:24:42 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:42:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:37 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:40:30 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 11:56:16 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:12:58 
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ehsjr <e.h.s.j.r.remov  2008-05-08 17:41:12 
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Spehro Pefhany <speffS  2008-05-08 14:11:27 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-08 19:19:42 
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Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-05-07 02:12:26 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 08:20:13 
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zekfrivo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 13:35:40 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 19:13:39 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 12:18:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 20:51:34 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 20:58:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 21:11:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 21:16:57 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-05-06 18:43:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:19:22 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:32:31 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:45:21 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:58 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:29:18 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:48:34 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:16:10 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-08 19:22:04 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-05-06 07:23:29 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-10 13:28:16 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 13:23:41 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-11 20:38:24 

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