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Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?

by Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 05:01 PM

In message <S7_Sj.2243$506.1543@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Bob Eld 
<nsmontassoc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes
>
>"Chris Siz" <default@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:Xns9A936FA2EF13F451E7A@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> I am in the UK and have a 10m length of some cheap TV aerial coax.  It
>> came from a discount store as a TV coax extension cable.  I measure the
>> cable diameter as 4.8mm.
>>
>> (1) Is it ok to use this sort of coax for a microphone?  I don't want
>> an impaired audio signal.  The length I need to use is 3 to 4 metres.
>>
>> (2) Is it ok for UHF TV or is it actually quite low grade coax and
>> prone to interference or mess up the aerial signal?
>>
>
>Yes, it's OK to use coax for a mic cable assuming the mic is a single
ended
>connection (one wire) with ground. The biggest issue is the cable
>capacitance. Depending on the mic's impedance, this capacitance will
>attenuate high frequencies. A low impedance mike will work better than a
>high impedance mic. The accumulated capacitance in four meters of cable
will
>be a couple of hundred pico-farads, probably not a problem.

Out of interest, how does the capacitance of ordinary TV coax (which 
will be 75 ohms, of course) compare with 'proper' mic cable? Of course, 
a lot of audio is balanced (usually nominally 600 ohms), which makes 
things generally less prone to the pick-up of interference. Unbalanced 
connections via coax (even if proper screened audio cable) is 
less-tolerant.
>
>For UHF TV cables are usually 72 ohms. If your cable is 72 ohms, it's
>probably OK. If it is 50 ohms it will still work but may degrade the
picture
>quality because of reflections within the cable.
>Try and see.

As it's TV coax, it's unlikely to be 50 ohms.

>If the antenna
>is 300 ohms, the cable is not suitable unless matched with a balun or
other
>impedance matching device.

UK aerials are not 300 ohms (except for those indoor FM radio aerials 
made from 300 twin feeder). I believe that, these days, they are also a 
bit of rarity in the USA.
-- 
Ian




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OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-03 10:58:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 10:10:02 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:32:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 11:19:21 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Theo" <theo  2008-05-03 11:16:56 
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PhattyMo <phattymo@[EM  2008-05-05 21:21:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-05-03 13:53:54 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
a7yvm109gf5d1@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 07:54:24 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:36:05 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-03 17:01:19 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Martin Griffith <mart_  2008-05-03 19:54:48 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Les." <les@  2008-05-03 21:51:11 
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Ian Thompson-Bell <ruf  2008-05-03 22:04:14 
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"Les." <les@  2008-05-04 12:33:54 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 11:05:41 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 18:13:31 
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"jim stewart" &  2008-05-03 19:02:19 
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SteveE <steve@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 19:33:32 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 20:59:59 
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Walt Davidson <g3nyy@[  2008-05-03 19:39:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 18:41:27 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:26:45 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-03 12:24:18 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-03 22:24:49 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:54:55 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:19:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-03 21:23:08 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 20:28:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 01:39:37 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:50:04 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:07:53 
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dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 11:35:25 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:21:39 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:10:31 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-03 21:47:33 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 13:07:17 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 14:17:44 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:22:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 18:51:55 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:02:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-04 22:12:27 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 01:03:39 
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Chris S <default@[EMAI  2008-05-04 12:51:35 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 13:02:51 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:11:40 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-05-04 10:57:38 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:30:38 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-03 20:19:37 
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Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-04 12:41:01 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:47:43 
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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-05-04 12:43:30 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:33:22 
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Grimly Curmudgeon <gri  2008-05-10 11:52:22 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-03 21:28:46 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 16:27:15 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 08:13:12 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 10:30:53 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 09:37:50 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 12:57:46 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 11:15:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:17:37 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:24:15 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:39:09 
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Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:47:17 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:55:08 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-04 21:32:27 
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"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:31:47 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-05 22:23:10 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Siz <default@[EM  2008-05-09 03:00:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-09 02:09:44 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:32:49 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 16:19:35 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 10:09:34 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 17:16:19 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-06 21:48:02 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Dead Paul <dead_paul@[  2008-05-04 18:16:14 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:23:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-06 01:10:24 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:01:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-04 13:10:24 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-04 22:29:28 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-04 08:20:22 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 15:27:48 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-05 10:06:59 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 08:57:06 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-04 19:41:33 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Jim Gregory" &  2008-05-04 21:07:11 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"jim stewart" &  2008-05-05 05:32:02 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 08:00:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-06 22:52:14 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 14:17:52 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-05-06 15:08:12 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:45:17 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 10:44:25 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Custos Custodum <me@[E  2008-05-09 00:55:54 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 20:18:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-07 11:26:08 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 07:54:21 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:24:42 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:42:55 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:37 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:40:30 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-07 11:56:16 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:12:58 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
ehsjr <e.h.s.j.r.remov  2008-05-08 17:41:12 
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Spehro Pefhany <speffS  2008-05-08 14:11:27 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-08 19:19:42 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-05-07 02:12:26 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 08:20:13 
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zekfrivo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 13:35:40 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-05-06 19:13:39 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 12:18:18 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 20:51:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 20:58:16 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 21:11:47 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-06 21:16:57 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Joel Koltner"   2008-05-06 18:43:27 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:19:22 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:32:31 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:45:21 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Phil Allison"   2008-05-08 01:49:58 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 10:29:18 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Earl Kiosterud"  2008-05-07 17:48:34 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-05-07 14:16:10 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-08 19:22:04 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-05-06 07:23:29 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-05-10 13:28:16 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 13:23:41 
Re: OK to use TV coax for microphone?
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-05-11 20:38:24 

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