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Re: WMA vs FLAC

by "Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2008 at 06:19 AM

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:480d75a9$0$12958$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> geoff wrote:
>> WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
>>>    Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???
>>
>> Isn't FLAC lossless ? And WMA isn't ?
>>
>> I guess it depends on how much space you want to save. Why not just
LPCM 
>> WAVs
>>
>> geoff
>
>
> As Geoff says use linear PCM Wave files with a sample-rate of at least 
> 44.1 kHz and a bit-resolution of at least 16-bit.
>
> If you must compress, use WMA but do so with the following wisdom:
>
> Beware all digital audio compression formats other than WMA, stink
badly!!
>
> Here are my rules for digital audio:
>
> A. Whether compressed or not, the audio must be monaural and with a 
> sample-rate of at least 44.1 kHz.
>
> B. The only compression allowed is WMA. No other compression format is 
> permitted.
>
> C. In its uncompressed form, the audio must have a bit-resolution of at 
> least 16-bit
>
> D. If compression is used, then the sample-rate of the compressed and
the 
> uncompressed version of the audio must be the same.
>
> E. If compression is used, the only thing that should be decreased is
the 
> bit-resolution. The sample-rate must remain unchanged
>
> Let's say a song that was originally recorded in stereo is given to me. 
> The song must to be converted to mono* via the following steps:
>
> 1. Record audio from CD [or other stereo audio source] into Wavelab,
Adobe 
> Audition [or other audio software] into a file. For simplicity let's
call 
> this file "Track1.wav"
>
> 2. Make a copy of Track1.wav and save the copy as "Track1B.wav"
>
> 3. Open Track1.wav and reduce the gain of its audio by 77.5%
>
> 4. Convert Track1.wav to monaural audio
>
> 5. Save Track.1
>
> 6. Open Track1B.wav and reduce its audio gain by 50%
>
> 7. Invert the phase of the left channel of Track1B.wav
>
> 8. Convert Track1B.wav to mono
>
> 9. Save Track1B.wav
>
> 10. Create a new stereo wave file whose bit-resolution is 16-bit and 
> sample rate is 44.1 kHz. For simplicity let's call this file 
> "untitled.wav"
>
> 11. Copy and paste the audio of Track1.wav into the left channel of 
> untitled.wav
>
> 12. Copy and paste the audio of Track1B.wave into the right channel of 
> untitled.wav
>
> 13. Convert untitled.wav to mono
>
> 14. Save untitled.wav
>
> *Songs that were originally-recorded in stereo need to be converted to 
> mono via the above 14 steps because different sounds are recorded 
> differently in the L and R channels. The audio that is originally panned

> to the center is significantly louder than the audio whose phase is 
> different in the left & right channels. This is why I reduce the
loudness 
> of non-inverted stereo audio file by 77.5% [before converting it to
mono].
>
> In the stereo file whose left channel has its phase inverted, I decrease

> the loudness only by 50% and then convert it to mono. Usually -- the
lead 
> vocals, bass, and percussion are recorded identically in both the left
and 
> right channels. The piano, chorus, guitar, and synth pads are usually 
> recorded differently in the left and right channel.

FLAC is lossless, reduces the disk space requirements by around 50
percent, 
has sup****t for tagging, and is rapidly becoming the standard for lossless

music, unless you are using Apple's lossless codec anyway.

I currently store in excess of 500 gigabytes of lossless music this way.


Mark Z.
 




 58 Posts in Topic:
WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-21 21:13:47 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"geoff" <geo  2008-04-22 16:39:05 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-04-21 22:21:38 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Bob Woodward <"Bo  2008-04-22 10:01:13 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mark D. Zacharias&q  2008-04-22 06:19:48 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 09:11:55 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-04-22 12:55:29 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Jocelyn Major <majorj@  2008-04-22 16:35:03 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-22 16:17:41 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 18:46:21 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Jocelyn Major <majorj@  2008-04-22 20:07:49 
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"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-04-22 18:30:59 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-04-23 01:43:24 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-23 11:35:53 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Green Xenon [Radium  2008-04-23 13:42:28 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 18:58:51 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 18:30:17 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"geoff" <geo  2008-04-23 10:32:40 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 09:03:17 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
dpierce.cartchunk.org@[EM  2008-04-23 15:04:32 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-21 21:51:44 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-22 12:31:36 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 09:18:45 
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don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-22 15:21:31 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 12:49:06 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 18:47:48 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-23 09:53:56 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 19:19:41 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-23 10:43:59 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 21:03:19 
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don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-23 12:26:12 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 21:40:59 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-23 12:41:34 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-23 21:52:17 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-04-23 12:53:35 
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"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-23 11:39:39 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-24 12:14:20 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-24 15:12:27 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-25 11:39:59 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-24 21:21:21 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-25 13:34:10 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Steven Sullivan <ssull  2008-04-25 19:51:29 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-25 16:44:59 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-23 11:38:24 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Steven Sullivan <ssull  2008-04-25 19:48:16 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"geoff" <geo  2008-04-28 09:59:11 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-28 12:38:30 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-27 22:44:01 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-28 18:59:57 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-28 22:11:40 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-29 06:21:20 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-29 11:43:52 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
Steven Sullivan <ssull  2008-05-13 19:49:37 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
dpierce.cartchunk.org@[EM  2008-04-23 05:10:54 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-23 11:41:11 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
dizzy <dizzy@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-23 23:04:33 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-22 09:41:46 
Re: WMA vs FLAC
"WindsorFox<SS>  2008-04-22 09:16:20 

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