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Re: need help choosing between line level cables

by Chris Hornbeck <chrishornbeckremovethis@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 16, 2008 at 10:42 PM

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:06:36 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>> Ground loops are systemic and subtle, and include the
>> summed parasitic couplings from all devices' mains to
>> each device's nominal Earth. It's a non-trivial summation.
>
>What do you mean by 'nominal earth' ?

Earth ground is an abstraction and all other "grounds" are
local and to some degree contaminated. If there's a better
term, I'll use it, but haven't heard it (yet).

>What you haven't mentioned and it's far more insidious is the effect of
>the Y filter caps in switched mode power supplies that create a leakage
>current to ground if you attempt to supply a mains ground to a system
>incor****ating such a device. This is the usual source of 'hum' when
>connecting laptops to audio sysyems when using their mains adaptors
>(whether 2 or 3 wire).

That's an excellent example. Local nominal ground is
contaminated by local garbage and causes a systemic
problem.

Much thanks, as always,

Chris Hornbeck
 




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toecheese <none@[EMAIL  2008-04-13 12:31:25 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-13 13:06:56 
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toecheese <none@[EMAIL  2008-04-13 20:10:45 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-13 13:19:51 
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toecheese <none@[EMAIL  2008-04-13 20:31:03 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-13 14:16:54 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-13 22:30:30 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-13 14:38:25 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-13 23:30:49 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-13 17:29:05 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-14 10:03:01 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-04-14 21:25:44 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 12:48:28 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-15 07:52:51 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 11:56:46 
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"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 13:41:20 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 13:00:14 
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"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 14:06:55 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:32:20 
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"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 18:53:33 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 19:03:07 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-15 09:44:37 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:29:39 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-15 20:00:10 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-15 09:39:00 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 13:43:23 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-15 09:47:35 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:26:51 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 17:48:55 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 19:01:29 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 18:15:08 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 19:48:52 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 19:01:04 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:26:12 
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"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 18:44:12 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-04-15 23:26:42 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:23:49 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 17:50:19 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 19:02:28 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 18:16:58 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 19:50:07 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-15 19:01:38 
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jakdedert <jakdedert@[  2008-04-15 13:54:27 
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"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-15 12:09:25 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 20:42:52 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-15 12:52:46 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 22:30:56 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-15 19:04:10 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-04-16 02:39:02 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-16 07:06:36 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-04-16 22:42:46 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-16 07:02:11 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 22:37:12 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 22:46:33 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 22:48:22 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 22:50:01 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-15 23:51:03 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-16 06:56:31 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-16 10:12:46 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
dizzy <dizzy@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-16 22:03:35 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-16 15:12:02 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-17 02:54:36 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-17 02:54:13 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-17 13:38:43 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-17 14:00:40 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Chris Hornbeck <chrish  2008-04-16 22:45:47 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:20:57 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-04-16 01:17:17 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
"Richard Crowley&quo  2008-04-15 06:19:21 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-15 18:28:27 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-04-16 01:32:19 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Tomi Holger Engdahl <t  2008-04-17 11:22:38 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur  2008-04-17 20:23:08 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-13 22:29:45 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-13 14:30:33 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-13 22:25:46 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-13 22:25:01 
Re: need help choosing between line level cables
dplatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-13 14:28:02 

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