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Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio

by "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 27, 2008 at 02:55 PM

"John Corbett" <corbett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:corbett-2705081343560001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article
> <A_ydnTyHF4nC1KnVnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Arny
> Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> "John Corbett" <corbett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:corbett-2105080939570001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> In article
>>> <S9ydnc_rv_JNT6_VnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Arny
>>> Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Lots of even harmonics make waves asymmetrical. All
>>>> even harmonics give you a wave that has either the
>>>> upper or lower side completly cut off.
>
> When I noted that what you claimed was not true, you
> responded:
>
>> I didn't say merely lots, I said "all". By that I mean
>> only even harmoncs, and all even harmonics (including
>> the z*****h) present. IOW all, any way you look at it.
>
> Mr. Krueger, you are still wrong.
>
> A simple counterexample is sufficient to show that a wave
> can have "only even harmoncs, and all even harmonics
> (including the z*****h) present" yet fail to have its
> upper or lower side completely cut off.  For example,
> consider a wave with these Fourier coefficients:
>
> a_0 = 1/4 = constant term (DC component)
> a_1 =  1  = fundamental cosine term
> b_1 =  0  = fundamental sine term (not needed)
> a_n = (1/5)^(n/2) if n = 2, 4, 6, ...
> a_n = 0           if n = 3, 5, 7, ...
> b_n = (1/5)^(n/2) if n = 2, 4, 6, ...
> b_n = 0           if n = 3, 5, 7, ...
> and let
> A   =  sum of cosine terms for n > 1, and
> B   =  sum of sine terms for n > 1.
>
> It is easy to see that -1/4 <= A <= 1/4 and -1/4 <= B <=
> 1/4 and that -1/2 < A + B < 1/2, so
>
>   f(t) = a_0 + a_1 cos( t ) + sum a_n cos( nt) + sum b_n
> sin( nt )
>
>        = 1/4 +     cos( t ) +        A         +       B
>
> By itself the fundamental cosine term ranges from -1 to 1
> on every cycle, so adding the higher-order terms (the A
> and B stuff) without the constant term would cause the
> maximum to be between 0.5 and 1.5, and the minimum
> between -1.5 and -.5.  Now adding the constant term, we
> see that that f(t) reaches a maximum that is at least .75
> and a minimum that is less then -.25, so it does not have
> its top or bottom completely cut off.

You're still reading your own ideas into what I wrote, John.

I didn't say that all combinations of all even harmonics always give a
wave 
that has all of either the positive or all of the negative cut off. You
made 
most of that up in your endless quest to split yet another hair.
 




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correct DC offset or uneven audio
pb <nobody@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 11:41:03 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 08:09:20 
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"Federico" <  2008-05-19 15:49:26 
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kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 10:02:28 
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"Federico" <  2008-05-19 18:43:26 
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kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 14:04:09 
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"Federico" <  2008-05-19 20:40:08 
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"geoff" <geo  2008-05-20 15:09:29 
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"Federico" <  2008-05-19 20:42:39 
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kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 14:49:10 
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Mike Rivers <mrivers@[  2008-05-19 20:58:11 
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"malachi" <j  2008-05-19 20:26:05 
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jakdedert <jakdedert@[  2008-05-19 20:53:19 
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"malachi" <j  2008-05-20 19:18:09 
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RD Jones <annonn@[EMAI  2008-05-19 15:40:22 
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RD Jones <annonn@[EMAI  2008-05-19 15:45:23 
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Laurence Payne <lp@[EM  2008-05-18 17:43:57 
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"geoff" <geo  2008-05-20 15:08:39 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
anahata <anahata@[EMAI  2008-05-20 04:52:17 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-20 09:31:37 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
corbett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-21 09:39:57 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-21 12:09:46 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
corbett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-27 13:43:56 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-27 14:55:27 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
corbett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-27 16:39:21 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-27 18:42:25 
Re: correct DC offset or uneven audio
ru.cox01@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-21 05:33:59 

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