Re: OT:Hannity and Wm. Ayers

On May 18, 4:22=A0pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> On May 17, 10:40=A0am, ScottW <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 17, 5:27=A0am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> > <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 14, 1:34=A0pm, ScottW <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 13, 6:02=A0pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> > > > <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On May 13, 6:38=A0pm, George M. Middius
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> > > > > > Clyde Slick said:
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> > > > > > > But that is not to say poor people are 'entitled' to
> > > > > > > having the good life handed to them by the government.
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> > > > > > It's not a question of entitlement. It's a question of
compassio=
n. And
> > > > > > "the good life" is way over the top when the necessities are
edu=
cation
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> > > > > Just send them to a private religious academy on the government.
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> > > > > > =A0and health insurance.
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> > > > > 2pid has proven that with a $5,000 deductible almost anybody can
> > > > > 'afford' health insurance.
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> > > > =A0They will be protected from being wiped out financially from
illn=
ess
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> > > > accident. =A0Is that a bad thing?
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> > > Except that the $5,000 deductible will wipe out many, if not most,
of
> > > the people in that category, and that many, if not most, things were
> > > not covered in the policy you posted.
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> > =A0GMAFB, =A0these people buy cars. =A05 grand is a burden but it
won't
> > force bankruptcy.
> > Need a loan?http://www.mymedicalloan.com/?PPCCode=3DG309b
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> These people will not be able to afford the deductibles in order to
> get care *before* it becomes necessary for hospitalization, when
> treatment is *less* expensive for the system.

 I suppose, cell phones and cable TV and internet are all so
expensive.
Who's got anything left for health care?
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> So you offer a choice of trans****tation or health care. Soon it will
> be food or health care.

 At least it's a choice.  Soon it will be gov't deciding if your
life is worth it.

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> (Don't worry, 2pid: I'll insert "whoosh" here now to save the trouble
> of doing so later.)
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> > Now maybe we need some program to help provide low cost loans
> > (similar to student loans) to assist with large deductibles.
> > Of course there are already things like health care reimbursement
> > accounts
> > which use to be use it or lose but can now be rolled over anually so
> > if these people were smart (sadly, not likely)
> > they'd take advantage of creating a tax free nest egg to cover this
> > expense.
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> This assumes they make enough to do so and that their employer offers
> them, neither of which is true in all cases.

 You don't need your employer to set up a health care reimbursement
account.
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> I have an HSA, but I can already afford the deductible. And this isn't
> all about "me". ;-)
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> Here. 2pid:
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> In 2005, there were approximately 113,146,000 households in the United
> States. 19.01% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $100,000,
> [5] 12.7% fell below the federal poverty threshold[6] and the bottom
> 20% earned less than $20,032.[7]

 So we have 20% slugs out there who'd rather sit on their ***** than
work.
 I'm shocked.  And you want to reward them with freebies.
That will really motivate them.  15 years ago these people weren't
earning anything as the gov't was paying for them room and board.

ScottW