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>>>>>>>> As I said before, I hope that you enjoy that "music".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How is it any less like traditional live music than
>>>>>>> listening to a stereo?
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not the point,
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It's a given that listening to a stereo isn't like
>>>> live music.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but "at least" most recordings of
>>>>>> music of the type we're writing about have human
>>>>>> performers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we are that far from software that can
>>>>> pass the Eliza test for
>>>>> emotion in music.
>>
>>>> What's the Eliza test?
>>
>>> LOL! If he really knew anything about psychology, he
>>> wouldn't hold the Eliza program up as a "test" for
>>> anything?
>>
>>>It was a sophomoric little computer program writen to ask open ended
"how
>>>do
>>>you feel about that" questions keying on certain response structures.
>>
>> Actually, Eliza was a parody of a Rogerian psychotherapist, as any
decent
>> reference on the topic says.
>>
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_effect
>>
>> Rogerian pyschotherapists responded largely by rephrasing the patient's
>> comments.
>>
>>>Nobody would mistake it for a real discussion with a psychiatrist,
>>>although
>>>occassionally it would hit upon a sequence of two or three responses
that
>>>might pass for 'real".
>>
>> It is well known that the Eliza program was a flawed implementation of
a
>> questionable approach to psychotherapy.
>>
>> So. I wasn't holding the proposed software up to a very high standard.
>>
>> A higher standard would be the Turing test.
>>
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
>>
>> As usual, Harry is imposing his own lack of knowlege and inability to
>> reason properly on the discussion.
>
> Very funny, Arny. I properly identified the test...from memory...not
from
> your crutch, Wikopedia.
Keep grasping for imaginary forms of superiority Harry. Just because I
post
the references doesn't mean that I didn't do it from memory. Also, it was
I
that initated the topic, you're just following my lead.
> Some of actually acquired knowledge as we went along...we don't have to
> "research' every question, Arny. It's called a "conversation".
In your case Harry, its all about your wounded ego.
>Eliza is Eliza, as I said a sophomoric little program mimicing the
>open-ended questions of a psychiatrist. Without "Wikopedia", Arny.
As I said Harry, you're talking about an imaginary advantage.
> Any you think that shows a lack of knowledge, Arny? Obviously you don't
> know the difference between real knowledge and "look up".
Dream on, Harry.
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