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> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVETHIS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> As I said before, I hope that you enjoy that "music".
>>>>>
>>>>> How is it any less like traditional live music than
>>>>> listening to a stereo?
>>>
>>>> That's not the point,
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> Yes. It's a given that listening to a stereo isn't like
>> live music.
>>>
>>>> but "at least" most recordings of
>>>> music of the type we're writing about have human
>>>> performers.
>>>
>>> I don't think we are that far from software that can
>>> pass the Eliza test for
>>> emotion in music.
>> What's the Eliza test?
> LOL! If he really knew anything about psychology, he
> wouldn't hold the Eliza program up as a "test" for
> anything?
>It was a sophomoric little computer program writen to ask open ended "how
>do
>you feel about that" questions keying on certain response structures.
Actually, Eliza was a parody of a Rogerian psychotherapist, as any decent
reference on the topic says.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_effect
Rogerian pyschotherapists responded largely by rephrasing the patient's
comments.
>Nobody would mistake it for a real discussion with a psychiatrist,
although
>occassionally it would hit upon a sequence of two or three responses that
>might pass for 'real".
It is well known that the Eliza program was a flawed implementation of a
questionable approach to psychotherapy.
So. I wasn't holding the proposed software up to a very high standard.
A higher standard would be the Turing test.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
As usual, Harry is imposing his own lack of knowlege and inability to
reason
properly on the discussion.


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