On 16 Mai, 17:50, Jenn <jennconductsREMOVET...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> =A0"Arny Krueger" <ar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "ScottW" <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > =A0Do any two performances, even by the same conductor,
> > > sound the same?
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> > Chances of something as long and complex as an orchestral work
sounding =
the
> > same =3D 0.
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> > Even short solo pieces are easy to ABX from performance to
performance.
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> So true, but I would take it further. =A0In my teaching of conducting, I
> see this all the time: =A0two conductors can give a simple downbeat for
> ONE chord, and the two can try to give it exactly the same way, and yet
> the sound will be different.
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> > > We're talking about replicating. Even a recording won't
> > > sound the same =A0as the original.
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> > Depends on how you define =A0the origional. If you define the original
a=
s
> > being the electrical signal going into the recorder than the
possibiliti=
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> > of "sounds the same" are good. However the action of microphones and
mix=
ing
> > are easy to pick out in a close listening test.- Ascunde citatul -
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the written language of music is very vague, and open to
interpretation.
meter for any particular designation falls within a range.
for pudness you have, f,ff,fff,ffff, those are the gradations.
the time of a crescendo is interpretative, and so on, and so on, and
so on.
Now , let's talk about 'original intent'
of the composers.
they kneww all this.
It was written with the intent that it would be interpreted by others.
Let's look at early onducting.
Back then, up to maybe 1800 or aq litle late, conducting
duties wer split between maybe 2 or 3 different
people with different roles.
Often, their biases and intents were at odds with each other.
Playing a piece was a raucous affair in itself.
the musicians weren't all too good,
and they had a mind to play it their own way.
Many early calsical msuicians were a bunchg of drunks, anyway.
So, as far as conductors trying to
'control this mess, you would have one guy with a big wooden pole
pounding the meter, and the conductor cueing in the players
and trying to control dynamics
Its a wonder it worked at all.
But the guys writing the music knew it would
be played back this way. they expected liberal interpretation.
It was NOT written with an expectation f being
exactly one way in each detail.
The written language of music does not even allow for that.
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