Re: OT:Hannity and Wm. Ayers

On May 15, 12:24=A0pm, ScottW <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 15, 9:02=A0am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

> <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 14, 1:31=A0pm, ScottW <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 13, 5:52=A0pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> > > <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 13, 6:40=A0pm, ScottW <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On May 13, 4:22=A0pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> > > > > <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On May 13, 6:12=A0pm, Clyde Slick <Mr.clydesl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > On 13 Mai, 14:58, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
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> > > > > > > <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > As I've said, capitalism requires a
> > > > > > > > slave class, even though we don't like to call it that.
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> > > > > > > Communism requires an enslaved society.
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> > > > > > That doesn't change the fact that capitalism requires a slave
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> > > > > =A0It used to be called labor. =A0You could raise a family on a
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> > > > > wage
> > > > > at a factory or in construction.
> > > > > Now it's slave labor. =A0 Dems want more slaves.
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> > > > Factories are all overseas now and construction in most parts is
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> > > > the tank.
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> > > =A0Home construction is in the tank but commercial construction has
> > > not been affected that badly.
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> > In some areas and in some segments perhaps. Tightening credit effects
> > non-residential too.
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> > > > Real wages have declined.
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> > > =A0See what happens when you have open borders?
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> > The minimum wage has been increased.
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> =A0Construction labor doesn't work minimum wage you idiot.

Not my point, you idiot. The vasy majority of jobs filled by illegal
immigrants are minimum-wage unskilled positions, like picking produce
or working in meat-packing plants or working as roofing laborers, you
idiot. My comment was a sarcastic crack at your stupidity, you idiot.
Illegal immigrants are for the most part not having any impact
whatsoever on wages, you idiot.

LOL!

> =A0Ask the drywallers and framers and concrete workers is
> illegal immigration doesn't affect their wage?

Not for skilled positions, you idiot.

> Ask the General Contractors if they can compete without
> resorting to illegal labor?

Not in skilled positions, you idiot.

> > Only you could get this so wrong... again. LOL!
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> =A0Gov't has to impose minimum wage increases because
> labor demand/supply doesn't mandate it.
> Your logic is off the chart insane.

What would minimum wage be without regulation? Hm.

> >http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_20080220se
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> "slower wage growth"

Yes, 2pid. Now is that "slower wage growth" a result of a slowing
economy, as this and several other re****ts indicate, or is it due to
illegal immigration, as you seem to 'think'?

> Explain to me how illegal immigration promotes wage growth?

Illegal immigration has very little, if any, effect on wages. I did
not say it "promoted wage growth". *You* said it caused a loss in real
wages.

In your either/or world, you've made up your 'mind' that illegal
immigration has a huge impact on wages or the economy. If I say it
doesn't, you convert that to mean I'm saying it has a beneficial
impact.

Illegal immigration has very little, if any, effect on wages.

Oh. You idiot.