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Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?

by "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 04:24 PM

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artyguy04@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message
news:45e6b21c-cf04-4217-9f38-7f0ee2d0ab81@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On May 8, 2:56 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artygu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote in
>>
messagenews:dba5b186-95c7-41e2-9da7-50cd17756d78@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> On May 7, 8:21 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Indirect benefits of reviewing:
>>>> (1) Professional development from actually doing the
>>>> work. Get hands-on
>>>> exposure to SOTA technology.
>>> Is this an "indirect benefit they hope for and often
>>> get"? This seems to be a given. I don't think this is
>>> what you had in mind at all.
>>>> (2) Professional reputation improved by widespread
>>>> exposure of your work, if
>>>> it is meritorious.
>>> Is this an "indirect benefit they hope for and often
>>> get"? This seems
>>> to be a given. I don't think this is what you had in
>>> mind
>>> at all.
>>>> (3) Professional reputation improved by being presented
>>>> as an authority
>>>> figure.
>>> Is this an "indirect benefit they hope for and often
>>> get"? This seems
>>> to be a given. I don't think this is what you had in
>>> mind
>>> at all.
>>>> (4) Develop personal ties with some of the people
>>>> responsible for the
>>>> equipment you review.
>>
>>> Is this an "indirect benefit they hope for and often
>>> get"? This seems
>>> to be a given. I don't think this is what you had in
>>> mind
>>> at all.
>>
>>>> (5) Infrequent long term *loans* of equipment, or
>>>> op****tunities to purchase
>>>> equipment at a significant "professional discount"
>>
>>> Is this an "indirect benefit they hope for and often
>>> get"? This seems
>>> to be a given. I don't think this is what you had in
>>> mind
>>> at all.
>>
>>>> (6) Every once in a while you end up with equipment
>>>> that the vendor simply
>>>> does not want returned. A two-edged sword because they
>>>> may not want it back
>>>> because it is junk.
>>> Everything you have listed save this one seems to be a
>>> given.
>>
>> Based on what?
>
> Based on the fact that it's speculation.
>
>>> It is highly doubtful that a manufacturer is going to
>>> write off
>>> gear that is worth very much.
>>
>> Where did I say anything about the how the manufacturer
>> was going to
>> expense providing the review equipment?

> Ah. The "debating trade".

Yes ****R you have been caught and ticketed for your application of
debating 
trade nonsense.

> I'll pass, thanks.

When what's bothering you passes, you'll probably feel better.

>>> It may happen, but I doubt it happens very often.

>> Based on what?

> Based on having worked in the audio industry at the
> factory, retail  and wholesale level, GOIA.

Been there, done that.  But I'm not going to believe that you're not lying

unless you give names and dates.

>>> You don't kow much about the audio industry, do you.

>> Why would you say that?

> Because it's obvious that everything you know about it is either made-
> up or second-hand.

Absent any documentation of your claims ****R, whatever you say is just 
smoke.
 




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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 14:27:12 
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Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:49:27 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
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Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 16:16:01 
Arnii Krooborg: Insane or Just Crazy?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 16:30:13 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 17:13:31 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 21:21:27 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:01:37 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:12:48 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 15:56:03 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-08 12:37:22 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:17:21 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:20:49 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 16:24:23 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 15:07:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 18:22:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:48:28 
Krooger's legendary envy
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 17:39:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 17:51:14 
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George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 18:16:51 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 16:20:38 
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George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 19:52:29 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-06 14:24:19 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 15:29:47 
Krooger kan't help himself
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-06 15:38:54 
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"TT" <TTence  2008-05-06 08:34:17 
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Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-05 18:33:46 
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Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-05 19:03:46 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-05 19:05:11 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 07:31:54 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-06 05:48:38 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-06 11:23:31 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 15:17:20 
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"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-06 23:02:00 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-06 16:06:53 
Re: Krooger kan't help himself
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 07:27:58 
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Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 05:11:45 
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Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 07:38:28 
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George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 11:12:02 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 05:15:33 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-07 07:49:06 
Re: Tice clock
"yellowmattercustard  2008-05-07 13:17:56 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 13:38:25 
Re: Tice clock
yellowmattercustard <y  2008-05-07 19:49:26 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 19:55:20 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 21:24:06 
Re: Tice clock
yellowmattercustard <y  2008-05-07 23:14:59 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 22:27:37 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 23:50:10 
Re: Tice clock
"yellowmattercustard  2008-05-08 09:39:58 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 21:23:38 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-07 22:41:49 
Re: Tice clock
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 21:08:42 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-08 02:44:15 
Another Kroo-down looming?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 21:50:54 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-07 16:58:07 
Re: Krooger kan't help himself
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 09:09:53 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 09:12:01 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:23:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-07 15:00:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 18:59:14 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 19:03:48 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-09 23:56:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:27:11 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 13:46:32 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:33:14 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 13:45:20 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 11:18:30 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 14:48:44 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-08 12:51:18 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:21:40 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 16:40:54 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:01:58 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 14:44:59 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:07:45 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-08 12:24:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:12:48 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 19:07:38 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:15:13 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:45:37 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-07 12:43:20 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 14:27:58 
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Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 14:51:50 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 15:00:13 
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Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 16:47:42 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 16:48:57 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 16:57:23 
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Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:00:54 
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Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:03:49 
Re: Tice clock
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:05:02 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-08 14:29:57 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 10:38:38 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:15:05 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:15:35 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:41:25 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:13:02 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 19:57:55 
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