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Krooger kan't help himself

by George M. Middius <cmndr_george@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 03:38 PM

Harry Lavo said:

>I am sorry, but I read Stereo Review and Audio every issue every year
from 
>the early '60's onward and I don't ever recall them using DBT's for 
>testing/reviews.  They may have run a feature on it from time to time,
but 
>that is hardly the same thing. 

S&V's wor****pping of "DBTs" is as hollow as the that of the 'borgs:
Writers and editors drop the term reverentially from time to time,
casting it as some sort of panacea for finding "trVth". But they can't
be bothered to learn enough about them in order to set them up on a
regular basis.

One thing Mister Krooger is unable to do is put himself in the position
of a reviewer. They are individuals who get paid by the word, not by the
hour. Where would the money come from to schlep them to a "laboratory"
(i.e. a torture chamber) with all necessary controls in place to conduct
"tests" with some semblance of scientific accuracy?

What Krooger refuses to admit is that Normals do NOT WANT to participate
in blinding rituals. They don't relish the punishment, the abnegation of
their souls. On top of that, DBTs in some bizarre laboratory setting
have no meaning for Normals. Their only value is as an R&D tool. A
reviewer can describe what he hears in relation to what he's accustomed
to experiencing in his accustomed listening area. This is exactly
parallel to what every Normal audiophile does. But all that is beyond
Krooger's komprehension because, presumably, he suffered brain damage
during his indoctrination into the aBxism religion.
 




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Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-05 16:11:55 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-05 18:31:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-05 16:33:00 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-05 19:35:01 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-05 18:51:41 
Tice clock
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 21:47:30 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 01:44:55 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 01:48:51 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-05 19:52:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-05 16:56:02 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-05 20:05:28 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 22:35:21 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 07:28:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-06 08:58:05 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-06 07:16:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 12:52:02 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-06 13:18:59 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-06 23:11:41 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 07:23:11 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 07:51:56 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:06:44 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 01:31:08 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-08 10:48:24 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 13:57:25 
Re: The Middiot - does he try to look stupid or is it all he kno
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 14:27:12 
Re: The Middiot - does he try to look stupid or is it all he kno
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 14:55:44 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 17:05:28 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 21:55:51 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:49:27 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-07 12:31:13 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 16:16:01 
Arnii Krooborg: Insane or Just Crazy?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 16:30:13 
The Middiot - does he try to look stupid or is it all he knows h
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 17:13:31 
Re: Krooger's legendary envy
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 18:07:56 
Re: Krooger's legendary envy
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 21:59:22 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"GeoSynch" <  2008-05-07 22:09:59 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 14:24:19 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 21:21:27 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 14:53:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 14:56:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:01:37 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:12:48 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 15:56:03 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-08 12:37:22 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:17:21 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:20:49 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 16:24:23 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 15:07:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 18:22:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:48:28 
Krooger's legendary envy
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 17:39:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 17:51:14 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 18:16:51 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 16:20:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 19:52:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 16:04:55 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-09 07:44:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-09 20:07:10 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 18:29:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 10:34:43 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 10:42:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 11:55:37 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-09 13:50:51 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 17:47:27 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-10 07:45:33 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-09 19:53:13 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-10 11:01:56 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 15:06:33 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-09 16:21:39 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-09 18:33:26 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 09:16:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-10 12:14:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 12:32:15 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-10 13:01:39 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-10 16:05:53 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-10 19:00:52 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 21:11:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-10 22:45:28 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 15:03:17 
What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 19:25:13 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Harry Lavo" &l  2008-05-06 13:47:34 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 15:21:53 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-06 14:24:19 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 15:29:47 
Krooger kan't help himself
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-06 15:38:54 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-06 08:34:17 
How to read Stereophile
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 20:55:33 
Re: How to read Stereophile
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 21:50:46 
Re: How to read Stereophile
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-06 09:54:53 
Re: How to read Stereophile
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 22:15:59 
Re: How to read Stereophile
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-06 13:37:00 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-05 18:33:46 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-05 18:36:10 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"BretLudwig" &l  2008-05-05 20:09:24 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-05 18:39:01 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-05 21:48:11 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-05 19:03:46 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-05 19:05:11 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 07:31:54 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"BretLudwig" &l  2008-05-05 20:46:58 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Signal <signal@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 13:12:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-06 12:48:08 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-06 05:23:53 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-06 05:48:38 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-06 11:23:31 
Re: Tice clock
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 15:17:20 
Re: Tice clock
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-06 23:17:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-06 11:37:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-07 06:50:28 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-06 23:02:00 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-06 12:21:33 
Re: Krooger kan't help himself
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-06 16:06:53 
Re: Krooger kan't help himself
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 07:27:58 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 05:11:45 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 07:38:28 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 11:12:02 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 05:15:33 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-07 07:49:06 
Re: Tice clock
"yellowmattercustard  2008-05-07 13:17:56 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 13:38:25 
Re: Tice clock
yellowmattercustard <y  2008-05-07 19:49:26 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 19:55:20 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 21:24:06 
Re: Tice clock
yellowmattercustard <y  2008-05-07 23:14:59 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 22:27:37 
Re: Tice clock
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 23:50:10 
Re: Tice clock
"yellowmattercustard  2008-05-08 09:39:58 
Re: Tice clock
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-05-07 21:23:38 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-07 22:41:49 
Re: Tice clock
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 21:08:42 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-08 02:44:15 
Another Kroo-down looming?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 21:50:54 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-07 16:58:07 
Re: Krooger kan't help himself
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 09:09:53 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 09:12:01 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:23:29 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-07 15:00:09 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 18:59:14 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 19:03:48 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-09 23:56:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:27:11 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 13:46:32 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 10:33:14 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 13:45:20 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 11:18:30 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 14:48:44 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-08 12:51:18 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:21:40 
Re: What is an "engineer"?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-08 16:40:54 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:01:58 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-07 14:44:59 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:07:45 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"TT" <TTence  2008-05-08 12:24:12 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:12:48 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"JBorg, Jr." &l  2008-05-08 19:07:38 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:15:13 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 11:45:37 
Re: Tice clock
John Atkinson <stereoe  2008-05-07 12:43:20 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-07 14:27:58 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 14:51:50 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 15:00:13 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-07 16:47:42 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 15:01:15 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 16:48:57 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-07 16:57:23 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:00:54 
Re: Tice clock
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:03:49 
Re: Tice clock
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-07 21:05:02 
Re: Tice clock
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-05-08 14:29:57 
Re: Tice clock
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 10:38:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:15:05 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:15:35 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 12:41:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 13:13:02 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-08 19:57:55 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 09:47:38 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-10 10:13:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 09:48:50 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 09:50:10 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-10 10:32:25 
Re: Does ANY audio mag use DBT?
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-10 13:04:34 

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