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Re: Orions Finished

by "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 04:39 PM

"ScottW" <ScottW48@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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 May 4, 12:09 pm, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "ScottW" <Scott...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On May 4, 7:50 am, "Soundhaspriority" <nowh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> I won't be the one to know. These days, I'm a laggard.

  So are all the CD player mf'ers it appears.

> From the s/n, it's
> not at the top of the AKM line. It's about 10 dB below the newest AKM, 
> which
> claims 123 dB.

 Seems to be a bit of a specs war going on. Often the improvement
isn't in the product but the measurement capability.  Test equip and
setups have their own noise floors.  I know the NF measures of our sat
transceivers improves quite a bit in the RF anechoic chamber.

> BTW, the Cirrus converters have innovated in the
> antialiasing filter, and received some very favorable comments for it.
> Basically, they moved away from the brick wall still used by AKM, going 
> for
> a much slower rolloff. Check out this table. It'll give you a few more
> numbers to look for:http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/techs/T2.html

thanks

>
> The Cirrus converters are used in Sound Devices recorders and Audiofire
> interfaces, both of which have received exceptional press.

 Which audiofire model uses a cirrus DAC?  I don't see the DAC
reference in their spec summary and none of dynamic range specs
are close to above
and the comments here on the recorder quality is a bit disturbing.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--PRSINSPIRE
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That's not an AudioFire, and I don't see a DAC reference.  This is 
Audiofire: http://echoaudio.com
 I have the Audiofire 12. Echo use  AKM 
converters in the bus powered units, and Cirrus where AC is available.  In

this review, 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct05/articles/echoaudiofire.htm
, the 
Audiofire 12 beat out a Layla 1212M, which presumably uses what were then 
AKM's best converters, with better s/n. I'm not pu****ng Cirrus, but it was

an interesting opinion.

The converters in the Audiofire 12 are actually bidirectional codecs, so
you 
wouldn't want to try to match part numbers.

See http://echoaudio.com/Sup****t/FAQ.php#8,
AK4620A - AudioFire 2, AudioFire 4

CS-4272 - AudioFire 12, AudioFire 8, Layla3G, Indigo i/o

CS-42426 - Gina3G

CS-4392 - Indigo dj

AK4528 - MiaMIDI
 




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Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 13:36:11 
Re: Orions Finished
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-03 16:43:45 
Re: Orions Finished
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-03 14:16:06 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 14:28:49 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 14:32:42 
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"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-03 21:01:59 
Re: Orions Finished
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-03 15:51:46 
Re: Orions Finished
Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-03 16:01:47 
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ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 17:07:10 
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Jenn <jennconductsREMO  2008-05-03 17:08:45 
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George M. Middius <cmn  2008-05-03 20:59:00 
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"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-03 18:14:00 
Re: Orions Finished
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-03 20:52:42 
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Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-03 20:54:19 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 21:10:52 
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"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-04 00:19:41 
Re: Orions Finished
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 13:11:39 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:01:22 
Re: Orions Finished
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-04 10:50:41 
Re: Orions Finished
"Shhhh! I'm Listenin  2008-05-04 06:31:31 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-04 11:21:32 
Re: Orions Finished
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-04 13:54:07 
Re: Orions Finished
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-04 15:09:46 
Re: Orions Finished
Clyde Slick <Mr.clydes  2008-05-04 12:56:16 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-04 13:14:48 
Re: Orions Finished
"Soundhaspriority&qu  2008-05-04 16:39:01 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-04 13:16:34 
Re: Orions Finished
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-04 16:50:24 
Re: Orions Finished
MiNe 109 <smcelroy2@  2008-05-06 11:25:33 
Re: Orions Finished
ScottW <ScottW48@[EMAI  2008-05-04 18:39:32 

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