Re: Vacuum Tubes - Are They Warmer Sounding?

On Fri, 30 May 2008 07:56:53 -0400, "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>in message news:6a8uolF35v55nU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> news:wsWdnQJphtwkdaPVnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> In the 21st century, the single-chip power amplifier is
>>> a paragon of simplicity.
>>
>> **Not really. It is an exceedingly complex device, which
>> happens to be simple to use. It is disingenuous to call
>> such devices "simple".
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>In human terms, which is ease of use and low parts count,

We're not talking about the human fallacy of thinking something is
'simple' because it's "out of sight, out of mind" hidden inside a
black box nor are we talking about  'ease of use' either because it's
wrapped inside a black box with 11 pins sticking out or fully
assembled with RCA, speaker, and power cord connections. 'Easy to use'
doesn't have a damn thing to do with amplifier quality or else
audiophiles would all be s****ting 1960s Japanese 10 transistor pocket
radios. Don't need to 'connect' anything to those. WOW, must be a
terrific amp inside.

> not to mention the 
>fact that all of the parts are readily available, a single-chip amplifier

>has unequalled simplicity. Admittedly the chip itself is complex to
produce, 
>but they are also pretty much old-tech these days. 

It is complex to produce, which was also not an issue till you shot
yourself in the foot diverting into the B.S. of 'previously unheard
of' vacuum technology

The issue, which everyone but you seems to understand, was circuit
complexity: what the electrons 'see' whether or not you can handle
soldering more than 11 pins or go blind dead and dumb hiding the thing
inside black boxes.