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Re: Sound quality question

by Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 12:33 AM

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:26:32 -0700, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article <fuj4ao025k4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> "Sonnova" <sonnova@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:fugeuk05uq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> There are several aspects to this question. First of all,
>> I have read in a number of sources that using a lossless
>> compression scheme (such as Apple Lossless in iTunes) can
>> theoretically result in BETTER sound than one can get
>> playing back the CD on a CD player. Apparently, the
>> reason for this is that the lossless algorithms, when
>> "ripping" a CD will try a digital word with errors over
>> and over again until it gets the word error free (most
>> errors on CD playback are random rather than hard, I'm
>> told).
> 
> One big inherent problem with CD players is that as a rule, they lack
the 
> ability to retry tracks that don't read right the first time. This
contrasts 
> with the better CD ripping programs that can read and reread a track,
until 
> reliable data is obtained.
> 
> I've been benefitting from this advantage for over a decade. It
primarily 
> applies to damaged CDs. If you're playing a disc in good condition,
there's 
> no possible advantage.
> 
> Most frequently, one of my kids simply loved a CD to death - often 
> scratching it heavily while using it in a ****table player. The problem 
> wasn't the ****table player, but the casual usage environment that tends
to 
> surround them.
> 
>> This means that the compressed file is error free
>> when finished.
> 
> Doesn't matter whether your finished product is compressed or not. I 
> generally produce a corrected .wav file, and simply burn another CD.
> 
>> If it's true that the playback sound
>> quality of a CD is determined by the number of
>> interpolated errors incurred on playback (which I do not
>> know as a fact **), then, all else being equal, the
>> uncompressed lossless file should, again, theoretically,
>> be better than CD.
> 
> Interpolation is not as accurate as what one obtains when retries are
used 
> to extract exact information.
> 

That's theory, as I understand it, anyway. But the question is: can one 
really hear the difference or is it another one of these examples where a 
difference that makes no difference is no difference at all?
 




 29 Posts in Topic:
Sound quality question
Iordani <somewhere@[EM  2008-04-19 21:24:44 
Re: Sound quality question
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-20 14:23:52 
Re: Sound quality question
Iordani <somewhere@[EM  2008-04-20 22:13:27 
Re: Sound quality question
"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-21 22:21:00 
Re: Sound quality question
"jeffc" <jef  2008-05-04 14:36:32 
Re: Sound quality question
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-05 02:46:24 
Re: Sound quality question
Chris27 <chris@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 22:30:00 
Re: Sound quality question
"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-23 00:34:50 
Re: Sound quality question
Chris27 <chris@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 02:04:46 
Re: Sound quality question
codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-20 14:25:43 
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jwvm <jwvm@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:31:54 
Re: Sound quality question
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:42:08 
Re: Sound quality question
codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-21 22:20:33 
Re: Sound quality question
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-24 01:29:18 
Re: Sound quality question
codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-24 23:05:21 
Re: Sound quality question
Steven Sullivan <ssull  2008-05-04 14:21:08 
Re: Sound quality question
Codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-05-04 19:32:49 
Re: Sound quality question
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 14:38:57 
Re: Sound quality question
Codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-05-04 19:33:56 
Re: Sound quality question
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-05 22:56:07 
Re: Sound quality question
"James" <jam  2008-04-20 14:45:26 
Re: Sound quality question
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-20 22:09:24 
Re: Sound quality question
"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-21 22:26:32 
Re: Sound quality question
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-23 00:33:58 
Re: Sound quality question
Walt <walt_askier@[EMA  2008-04-24 01:28:22 
Re: Sound quality question
"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-24 23:04:32 
Re: Sound quality question
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-05-04 14:20:16 
Re: Sound quality question
"DaveW" <rad  2008-04-23 00:32:50 
Re: Sound quality question
isw <isw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-24 01:32:50 

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