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Re: Sound quality question

by Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 10:09 PM

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:24:44 -0700, Iordani wrote
(in article <fudnus0299f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> I have a sound system which I'm very pleased with.
> (System Audio Explorer speakers and Musical Fidelity A300 amp and A3
> CD-player)
> 
> If I were to convert my CDs to some lossless file format and store them
on
> an (external) hard disk drive and then play them using computer and some
> media player to feed my amp,  would there be any theoretical or real
> difference in sound quality compared to using my CD player.
> 
> Answers and/or pointers highly appreciated.

There are several aspects to this question. First of all, I have read in a

number of sources that using a lossless compression scheme (such as Apple 
Lossless in iTunes) can theoretically result in BETTER sound than one can
get 
playing back the CD on a CD player. Apparently, the reason for this is
that 
the lossless algorithms, when "ripping" a CD will try a digital word with 
errors over and over again until it gets the word error free (most errors
on 
CD playback are random rather than hard, I'm told). This means that the 
compressed file is error free when finished. If it's true that the
playback 
sound quality of a CD is determined by the number of interpolated errors 
incurred on playback (which I do not know as a fact **), then, all else
being 
equal, the uncompressed lossless file should, again, theoretically, be
better 
than CD. I can't comment on this one way or another, but I can tell you
how I 
do the computer music server routine and I'm more than pleased with the 
results.

I rip CDs using ALC (Apple Lossless Compression) and store the music on 
iTunes. My computer is connected to an 802.11N wireless router. In my 
listening room, I have an Apple TV box connected to my big-screen TV both 
audio and video. BUT, my stereo system is completely separate from my home

theater system. To get the music to that, I use a long glass fiber TOSLINK

cable which connects to my Assemblage DAC 2.6 and D2D-1 Sample-rate
converter 
which I have set to 96 KHz up-sampling and the DAC is a 24-bit unit. This 
setup works great because the digital to analog conversion is NOT taking 
place in the computer and thus is not dependent upon the questionable
quality 
of either a computer's on-board sound circuitry or that of a sound card. 
Also, by using the Apple TV and an outboard high-quality DAC setup, one is

doing the decoding far removed from the computer with all of its clock 
signals and internal RF hash. One does NOT need a Mac to do this, a
Windows 
PC will work just fine. Merely download iTunes for Windows from the Apple 
site and buy yourself an Apple TV box for US$229. You can also stream HD 
movies and videos via this box, Access U-Tube on your TV set, and view
your 
digital pictures in HD on your HDTV. So, its a well spent $229.

Whether this results in "better than CD" sound I don't know. My CD player
(A 
Sony XA777ES SACD player) sounds great and so do the Assemblage units. But
I 
must say that playback from the lossless compression through my computer 
certainly sounds at least as good as playing the CD through the CD player
and 
is certainly more convenient. I can choose the CD I want to listen to from
my 
easy chair. 

** I used to have a Meridian CD player that had an "error re****ter" built
in 
to it. It was a series of LEDs across the front of the unit which flashed
in 
response to errors. The more errors encountered the more LEDs that lit-up.

One LED counted full interpolation errors. All I can tell you is that it
was 
quite a light show (This was in the late 1980's) and one wondered at the
time 
how CD could even work with so many errors.
 




 29 Posts in Topic:
Sound quality question
Iordani <somewhere@[EM  2008-04-19 21:24:44 
Re: Sound quality question
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-20 14:23:52 
Re: Sound quality question
Iordani <somewhere@[EM  2008-04-20 22:13:27 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-21 22:21:00 
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"jeffc" <jef  2008-05-04 14:36:32 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-05 02:46:24 
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Chris27 <chris@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 22:30:00 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-23 00:34:50 
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Chris27 <chris@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 02:04:46 
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codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-20 14:25:43 
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jwvm <jwvm@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:31:54 
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guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-20 14:42:08 
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codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-21 22:20:33 
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guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-24 01:29:18 
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codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-04-24 23:05:21 
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Steven Sullivan <ssull  2008-05-04 14:21:08 
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Codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-05-04 19:32:49 
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guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 14:38:57 
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Codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-05-04 19:33:56 
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guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-05 22:56:07 
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"James" <jam  2008-04-20 14:45:26 
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Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-20 22:09:24 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-21 22:26:32 
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Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-23 00:33:58 
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Walt <walt_askier@[EMA  2008-04-24 01:28:22 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-24 23:04:32 
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Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-05-04 14:20:16 
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"DaveW" <rad  2008-04-23 00:32:50 
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isw <isw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-24 01:32:50 

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