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Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B

by "Serge Auckland" <sergeauckland@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 05:22 PM

"Tony Pike" <tonypike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fufk2301avn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My original post:
>
> I have a question with the above subject concerning bi-amping with a
> Sonic Frontiers Line One tube preamp. Both amps will be accompanying
> Martin Logan Sequel 2 speakers, all at 8 ohms. I will use the Bryston
> for the woofers and the A.R.C. for the panels. The D115 has level
> controls, but I am unsure if it will be adjustable enough to blend
> equal output for both amps sonically. The Bryston is hooked up with a
> balanced output from the preamp and the D 115 is single ended. I
> realize if I have too much base that I can use single ended to my B4
> to lower by 6db. and maybe equalize better on the base/panel Martin
> Logans. Barring purchasing an outboard adjustable crossover (Bryston's
> is around  $1300.00) - any other suggestions from the group here
> please?
>
> "Guido Neitzer" <guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:fudnru02948@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Maybe - don't mix different amplifiers on the same speaker. It just
>> sounds gross. If you don't like the Bryston, get a different amp. In
>> general - bi-amping without active crossover never sounds better than
>> one better single amp.
>>
>> With active crossover, you might (!) get about the same sound qualitiy
>> with more power headroom, but overall, speaker manufacturers know what
>> they're doing, so it's very doubtful, you can match the quality with
>> mixing equipment and hooking up the stuff without measuring equipment.
>>
>> cug
>
> I love both amps, if any in the group are familiar with them. The Audio
> Research D115 mk.2 has the absolute clearest midrange and treble my ears
> identify, but lacks bass, like almost all tube amps. The Bryston is 
> amazing
> in all aspects, and being transistor output has solid clear bass to make

> the
> difference. I understand Guido that Martin Logan and other high end 
> speakers
> know what they're doing or would not be near the top of the heap, but
like
> many other speaker manufactures, offer 2 inputs each channel. It is not 
> just
> for bi-wiring, but for bi-amping which comes back to my original
question 
> to
> the group.
>    Regards,
>                Tony.
>

Bi-amping without using electronic crossovers is pointless. As Guido said 
above, there's no point in it, and the results will almost always be
worse, 
never better. If you want to play around with the treble/bass balance of 
your 'speakers, then fine, enjoy yourself by all means, but don't expect
the 
results to be better than what Martin Logan originally supplied. My advice

is to use the Bryston amp as this is one of the better engineered units,
and 
keep the ARC for nostalgia, or indeed, sell it and use the money more 
effectively.

S.

-- 
http://audiopages.googlepages.com
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Tony Pike" <  2008-04-19 15:01:51 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-19 21:23:10 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-20 14:24:56 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Tony Pike" <  2008-04-20 14:30:27 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-20 17:22:04 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-20 22:12:54 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Serge Auckland"  2008-04-21 22:19:55 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-23 00:33:23 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
guido.neitzer@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-21 22:19:25 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-04-20 22:12:31 
Re: Bi-amp Audio Research and Bryston 4B
"Tony Pike" <  2008-04-21 22:26:58 

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