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Re: Phono reamp recommendation

by "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 14, 2008 at 12:32 AM

"Vinyl Rules!" <timbritt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:fotrl202kdv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> However, since you are going to archive your vinyl,
> please let me gently suggest you DO NOT ARCHIVE on CR-R
> or CD-RW media: Archive on an external hard drive, and
> keep your vinyl in climate controlled storage.

I agree that vinyl should be carefully stored after transcription, and so 
should the CD-Rs. However, hard drives aren't reliable means of archiving,

either. Hard drives can definately fail while being stored.

> Why? Because virtually all consumer CR-R's and CR-RW's
> use a "dye- sublimation" process to burn the pits into
> the disc. This means the laser is burning pits into a
> coloured dye substrate layer, not a metallic aluminum
> substrate layer that is used in commercial CD's and DVD's.

This method of storing data is known to last for dozens of years,  by
means 
of practical example and acellerated life testing.

> But, and this is a BIG BUT, this dye, over time, will run
> back together and the pits you have burned in your disc
> will disappear. The Smithsonian Institute was one of the
> first to get bitten by this when they began archiving
> crumbling wax cylinder and shellac disc media some years
> back onto regular consumer CD-R's.

I know of no medium that hasn't failed for the Smithsonian.

> Now, virtually all of
> these CD-R's are unplayable, and in some cases the media
> they were recorded from was damaged beyond repair during
> the recording process.

I searched for credible references to confirm this, and found none. Please

provide a link.

> Some manufacturers claim to sell 100 year archival
> CD-R's, but I would take their claims with a grain of
> salt.

Caution is always a good thing.

> As old as the vinyl format is, no one has yet to
> develop a longer-lasting format if the LP's are kept
> clean, dry, and in a low-humidity environment.

I have never worked with media that was more prone to sonic degradation
than 
vinyl and analog tape.

> And commercial CD's and DVD's made with an aluminum substrate
> layer also probably have a long life-expentency.

I know of no commercial CD or DVD product that uses any substrate other
than 
polycarbonate.

> So were I to undertake such a project, I would not even
> bother with the CR-R's or DVD's you can buy in any of the
> office stores - I would look for an external big hard
> drive to use to archive onto, and I would then back up
> it's information on another external HD just to be safe.
> And I would keep my original media.

The gold standard for recordable CD and DVD meida is usually given as
being 
Taiyo Yuden. Their products are widely available for reasonable prices.
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Phono reamp recommendation
squirrelf@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-09 16:17:37 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-02-09 18:16:48 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Arny Krueger"   2008-02-10 03:40:43 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
Peter Wieck <pfjw@[EMA  2008-02-12 00:11:10 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-02-13 03:54:33 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Arny Krueger"   2008-02-13 04:19:50 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Vinyl Rules!"   2008-02-13 04:28:18 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Arny Krueger"   2008-02-14 00:32:23 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-02-14 23:06:51 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
nebulax <nebulax@[EMAI  2008-02-20 02:26:59 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Ghod" <ghod  2008-03-03 23:27:28 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-03-05 01:10:37 
Re: Phono reamp recommendation
"Norman M. Schwartz&  2008-03-05 01:13:43 

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