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Re: 6" Kenwood speakers

by Matt Ion <soundy106@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 07:48 AM

Neil Green wrote:

>> The signal coming out of the deck is AC; the signal 
>> phase has to be the same in both speakers.  There is 
>> no "right" or "wrong" polarity as such, they just 
>> have to be the same.  A DC meter won't give you a 
>> meaningful reading.
> 
> The AC bit is news to me, I was under the impression 
> that the current to the speakers was DC, but as you 
> can probably tell I'm more or less ignorant in these 
> matters.

Not really... just a little n00bish.  That's okay, it's always good to 
learn something new!

If you feel inspired to understand it a little better, take a browse of 
http://www.bcae1.com
("Basic Car Audio Electronics"), specifically 
section 21 on "Audio Output".

> Anyway, the meter showed a minus sign one way and not 
> the other, and I connected the two speakers 
> accordingly. 

It's not unusual for an amplifier's output to have a slight DC offset, 
which is probably what you were measuring, but there's no guarantee it 
will be the same offset on both channels and thus not a valid indicator 
of phase.

(Hmm, it's strange there's not actually a section on "phase" on BCAE... 
it's a little crude, but there's a diagram and brief explanation at 
http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/earlyburbs/projects/stereo/systems.htm

- scroll down to "speaker phase")

>> That makes it a little easier then, because you can 
>> check the polarity of the connections to the deck, 
>> then confirm them at the speaker end. If you used 
>> the factory speaker wiring, just follow the wiring 
>> color codes and make sure the + and - outputs on the 
>> deck properly match the terminals on the speakers.
> 
> My son actually had them written down (good boy!) and 
> they tallied with how we had the speakers wired so 
> it's all good as far as that goes.

Excellent!

> The rear seats fold forward so there's nothing to 
> mount a sub on, and my son needs the folding seats to 
> stow golf clubs..

Ah.  Of course, folding the seats down also introduces the acoustic 
leakage problem we've been battling thus far, though hopefully not as 
severely.  He'll have to remember that he'll probably see reduced bass 
output from the rear speakers with the seats down, and remember NOT to 
try to compensate by cranking the bass control.

> OK, so we make up an MDF parcel shelf and kill a 
> little of the bass, that's OK.
> The system sounds fine apart from the bass distortion 
> so I'll tell him to go easy.

Turning down the bass control is the actual "fix" for the problem... the 
rest of the exercise is intended to improve the speakers' own bass 
response, so he doesn't NEED to turn up the knob.

> Once again, thanks very much for your time and 
> patience. 

No worries!
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-06 09:53:50 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-05 19:15:23 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-06 12:31:55 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-05 20:05:02 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-06 15:27:57 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-06 00:12:11 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-06 17:32:59 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-06 19:36:35 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-07 17:19:33 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-07 07:48:42 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-08 17:49:45 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
bob36swmla@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-06 08:19:18 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-06 07:57:26 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-07 17:34:40 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-07 09:41:42 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-07 07:34:38 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-08 17:52:37 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-08 07:39:59 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-08 17:40:10 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Arny Krueger"   2008-05-08 07:25:31 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-08 22:45:37 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
Matt Ion <soundy106@[E  2008-05-08 07:44:00 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-09 18:00:04 
Re: 6" Kenwood speakers
"Neil Green" &l  2008-05-10 17:57:28 

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