In article <dIedneBNccaP64rVnZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, ChrisB
<ChrisB@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>GregS wrote:
>> In article <voOdnX06H48Kz4rVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, ChrisB
> <ChrisB@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> ruens wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:22:17 -0500, ChrisB
>>>> <ChrisB@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (...)
>>>>
>>>>> No ****. One of my police officer friends told me how sophisticated
the
>>>>> thieves were regarding the LS1 thefts in the state. He then went on
to
>>>>> tell me how the thieves have tow trucks in the New Orleans area, and
>>>>> seem as though they are towing vehicles for legitimate reasons.
>>>>> Uniforms, papers, you name it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I can't stop someone from stealing my car, I want to make
the
>>>>> bastard work to take mine! I already have a super stealth car alarm
>>>>> install planned where the brain won't be where a thief would expect
it
>>>>> to be (unless he feels like disassembling the interior of the car)
and I
>>>>> am thinking of going with a non-traditional method to prevent the
>>>>> vehicle from running, in addition to the starter interrupt! The
only
>>>>> downside to this is I easily see my install taking close to 16 hours
due
>>>>> to the re-routing of the wires and the not so standard location of
the
>>>>> brain. No shop around here would take on that monumental task, plus
it
>>>>> wouldn't be worth the labor they would charge anyhow!
>>>> In addition to hiding the brain, you should consider a backup battery
>>>> and a few backup sirens. A hidden alarm brain alone is useless if the
>>>> battery wire is cut or removed.
>>> Oh, I am definitely going with a battery backup! Every alarm I ever
>>> installed had one, so this will be no exception.
>>>
>>> I am also going to use a couple of pain generators inside the cabin,
as
>>> Matt suggested! That delayed trigger is also a good idea.
>>>
>>> Of all the ironies, a friend of mine who works as an installer at Best
>>> Buy has been telling me what I should do! He said that they, Best
Buy,
>>> don't do starter disables because they were forced to pay too many tow
>>> charges, yet he told me that I need to disrupt the starter AND
something
>>> else (fuel pump and/or ECU) because the starter disable would not stop
a
>>> thief from push starting my car! I just find it ironic that he is
>>> making suggestions of how to protect my vehicle yet he doesn't install
>>> those protection features as a "professional" installer.
>>
>> I would not ever disable the starter. It gives the thief
>> something to do. Creates a larger noise and time delay. Just disable
the fuel
>> or ignition.
>>
>> greg
>
>That is what I meant by starter kill.... I usually break the ignition
>circuit somewhere other than the ignition harness in the steering
>column. I am of the opinion that splicing close to the key just gives
>the thief the information he needs to hot wire the car! Hell, 15 years
>ago I used to base my alarm installs off of the shoddy installs that I
>saw other "professionals" do! I am still shocked to see that the
>installs today are just as shoddy, except now they don't even disable
>the vehicle.
>
>I guess the factory immobilizer circuits are supposed to keep the
>vehicles safe..... Oh wait, I almost forgot that the real thieves
>already know a way around those too.
You should have your insurance reduced when you have a theftproof
device installed. My insurance still has that ever since I installed one
long ago.
greg


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