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Re: Oscillation problems WAS Re: C-Audio schematic?

by gwatts <gwatts@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 08:02 AM

Eeyore wrote:
> 
> Denny Strauser wrote:
> 
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>>> "Eeyore"  wrote
>>>>> Gareth Magennis
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, don't MOSFETS, which C Audio mostly used as their output
devices,
>>>>>> suffer from real RF if the PCB etc is not carefully designed?
>>>>> That's one way to make them oscillate ! LOL ! They were fun to tame
when
>>>>> they came out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point though. Check the value of the series gate resistors.
Expect
>>>>> anything between 100 and 1000 ohms. Quite possibly ~ 330.
>>>> What kind of frequencies are we talking when they oscillate like
this?
>>> Crikey ! Now you're stetching an old man's memory without digging out
the
>>> Hitachi app notes. Low MHz or high 100's of kHz typically IIRC.
>>>
>>> Enought to be a bugger.
>>>
>>> It most likely wouldn't hurt to 'up' those Rg values by one E6 value
btw.
>> While we're on the topic of oscillation problems, I'd like to ask
>> another question regarding the same.
>>
>> On Yahama 3K, 4K & Midas Venice, I've experienced something that sounds
>> like an oscillation problem. On these consoles, when an EQ gain is
>> turned up the whole way & Frequency is swept while passing a signal,
>> there seems to be some sort of oscillation.
>>
>> What is this?
> 
> Pot mistracking due to lack of regular use. One side of the frequency
circuit goes
> nearly open and it creates an oscillator around that EQ section..
> 
> Whizz the Freq pot back and forth a few times and it'll go away.

I've seen/heard it on brand new Furman PQ-3's, implying I don't think 
it's a worn or dirty pot, more the filter circuit going unstable due to 
the frequency related topology* changing while the gain is high.  I've 
only had it happen while sweeping and with the Q set for less than 1/2 
octave width.  Just keep the gain lower until you find the right 
frequency, then adjust the gain to suit.

*  If you want to go in to poles and zeros I will, but that gets a bit 
pedantic.
 




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C-Audio schematic?
Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-06-29 23:27:39 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-06-29 23:00:48 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-01 12:56:11 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-01 13:02:01 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-01 20:26:52 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 01:32:49 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 11:00:37 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 19:31:23 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-03 01:50:11 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 15:42:35 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 10:42:10 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 19:56:10 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 13:14:35 
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gwatts <gwatts@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 08:47:10 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 23:24:42 
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gwatts <gwatts@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 16:34:09 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 16:45:22 
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gwatts <gwatts@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 07:54:14 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 22:56:27 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-02 19:55:59 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:21:42 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:21:57 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 14:57:18 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-03 20:39:23 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 10:43:51 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 11:25:26 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 12:50:32 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-04 02:15:30 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 11:48:47 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-04 03:29:39 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 12:40:42 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-03 22:59:03 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 13:15:57 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-04 11:19:05 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-04 21:17:24 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-04 22:07:02 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-05 12:40:10 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-08 10:36:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-05 13:18:16 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-05 05:26:18 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-05 14:37:12 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-05 20:14:51 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-06 10:48:43 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-05 22:48:21 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-06 13:06:28 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-06 18:27:28 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-07 09:03:11 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-06 23:07:06 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-07 13:30:20 
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bob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-07 19:59:19 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:14:04 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 19:39:03 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 13:21:22 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 19:41:18 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 21:02:23 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 22:22:46 
Oscillation problems WAS Re: C-Audio schematic?
Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 17:56:56 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 00:42:39 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 20:08:08 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:27:57 
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0junk4me@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-07-03 12:01:34 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 22:14:35 
Midas Venice WAS Re: Oscillation problems WAS C-Audio schematic
Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-03 14:24:54 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 20:07:35 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:19:16 
Re: Oscillation problems WAS Re: C-Audio schematic?
"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 14:58:50 
Re: Oscillation problems WAS Re: C-Audio schematic?
gwatts <gwatts@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 08:02:26 
Re: Oscillation problems WAS Re: C-Audio schematic?
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 20:05:21 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 22:19:55 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 00:47:04 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:33:51 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:23:05 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 15:00:55 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 19:38:02 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:35:42 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-02 19:36:45 
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"Gareth Magennis&quo  2008-07-02 18:51:00 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:37:52 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:24:19 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 15:03:41 
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bob urz <sound@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 09:07:28 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-03 01:47:59 
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Rupert <foodsteaks@[EM  2008-07-02 10:30:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 11:18:49 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:21:16 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 14:55:56 
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Rupert <foodsteaks@[EM  2008-07-02 18:58:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 12:17:27 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 12:27:06 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 22:56:38 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 13:00:53 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 23:13:44 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 13:16:47 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-07-02 23:43:52 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 13:46:43 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:30:43 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 14:51:50 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 20:01:40 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:28:56 
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Rupert <foodsteaks@[EM  2008-07-02 20:36:46 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 13:46:00 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-03 05:25:53 
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Denny Strauser <dennys  2008-06-29 18:03:42 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-01 12:56:43 
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo  2008-07-01 20:27:36 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 15:42:51 
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"Phil Allison"   2008-07-02 15:41:30 

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