Re: What the Pro's Don't Do

"George's ProSound Company" <bmoas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Phildo" <Phil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Come this weekend I am donateing 650$ worth of time and
>>>> equipment for the Blessed Virgin Mother Academy
>>>> they are haveing a spring festival
>>>> so what is it again that you did that pro's dont do
>>>> without the bragging and chest pumping you have
>>>> accomplished?

>>> What George misses is that the OP put a heck of a lot
>>> more into the job than just a weekend, or $650 worth of
>>> time. Besides $650 worth of time is meaningless,
>>> without an hourly rate.

>> Are you stupid or what? That is what George would charge
>> for such an event which includes labour at whatever
>> hourly rate he charges.

Good job of missing the point. The point is what does $650 worth of time
and 
equipment rental translate into, stated in terms of time and equipment? 
Does it compare with the 100+ hours that one can easily put into an Easter

program as described by Mr. Gill or myself?

I would humbly propose that George bills his time and equipment out at
more 
than free rental and time for more than minimum wage.

>>> An event such as the OP described can easily involve
>>> 100 or more hours of work over a period of several
>>> months. For George to make an unfavorable comparison of
>>> 100 or more hours of work over several months to a
>>> weekend gig shows how out-of-touch George is.

>>  No, it just shows what a pedantic and pathetic little
>> nit-picker you are Arny and that you will grasp at any
>> straw to try and discredit those who daily show you up
>> for the know-nothing blowhard you are.

You're just blowing smoke, Phildo. You've provided no relevant facts, no 
amounts of time, no equipment configurations.

> what a ****wit you make christians out to be arnii!

No, that's what you seem to think.

> I  am glad I know lots of great christians who see you as
> a **** bag

Name them.

> this is just one of the dozens of things I donate to
> I donate thousands upon thousands of dollars of my time
> and expertise every year

So do lots of other people. But the event you cited looks to me a like a 
pretty weak effort.

> I bet even forgoing placeing a value on my services I
> would bet i donate more TIME than you do as a full time
> voulenteer, and my donations are signifacantly more
> productive to the bottom line of the chairties I give to.

So far you've provided no evidence that can substantiate that claim.

> you dont even pony up a few lousy headsets for your
> church.

How do you know that I haven't done that and more?

> and no I do not work"by the hour"
> I haven't worked a "hourly" wage job in 30 or more years

So George are you saying that you don't bill your customers based on time,

and that your estimate of $650 for the work you did for  Blessed Virgin 
Mother Academy can't be translated into real-world terms?