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Re: Phildo Lies 3 Times In One Post. What's new?

by "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 07:33 AM

"Phildo" <Phil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Phildo" <Phil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> <skip over Phildo's usual anti-religious trolling>
>>
>>>> The biggest fallacy there is the idea that "we
>>>> experience now with fantastic precision". In fact
>>>> eyewitness accounts are notoriously error-prone. We do
>>>> not experience now with fantastic precision. The best
>>>> way I know to experience a point or period of time with
>>>> the best possible precision is to record it, preferably
>>>> from several perspectives, and then go over each
>>>> recording several times very carefully and critically.
>>
>>> So that is why you multitrack record your gigs and
>>> analyse them on the computer in the hope of fixing the
>>> feedback the following week by which time everything
>>> will have changed?
>>
>> First off, the recordings were being made for the usual
>> purpose - to have a recording of the gig. The analysis
>> of whatever issues arose is one of those op****tunities
>> that a live sound mixer can have when he's also mixing
>> down the recording. Obviously, a foriegn experience to
>> people like you and George, Phildo.
>
> Amazing how you constantly change your story.

Change what story, Phildo?



> You came on  here boasting  about your amazing technique on how to
reduce 
> feedback

No boast, no amazing, just another alternative.

> and couldn't  understand it when people started ridiculing you

I understand your redicule quite well, Phildo.  Weak-minded people
redicule 
bad ideas, good ideas, any ideas that are different from their own narrow 
views.

> (as if  you are not used to  it by now).

See Phildo, you just contradicted yourself. First you say that I don't 
understand it, then you say that I am used to it. If I am used to it then 
that is because I understand it. Your redicule tells me more about you
than 
me.

> Same went for when you tried to tell us that
> you can ring out a  sound system using a CD !!!!

Way over your head, Phildo.

>> Secondly Phildo, you apparently don't read your own
>> posts. In an installed system, everything doesn't change
>> from week to week. Maybe, very little changes. Depends
>> on the week.

> The system itself doesn't change but mics get moved,

Not necessarily. Take a lecturn mic. It can't be moved more than a few 
inches without ripping it out of its flex mount. I think we all know that
if 
you have a mic that goes into feedback when you move it even a few inches,

you are dead. So, for all practical purposes, a lecturn mic in a chuch 
rarely if ever gets moved. Shows what little you understand about doing
live 
sound in a church, Phildo.

> different artists play etc.

Not necessarily. Take the praise team in our church. Other than absences, 
there is only one person who does not play or sing the same part every
week.

> LOTS of things change Arny.

As usual Phildo, you're arguing against yourself. I said "In an installed 
system, everything doesn't change
from week to week. Maybe, very little changes. Depends  on the week."

To clarify things for your pea brain Phildo, that means that lots of
things 
may change, or not.

>> Furthermore, on those rare occasions where there are
>> feedback problems, they are fixed on the spot, in
>> seconds or even before they are heard by the audience,
>> based on hearing the beginnings and heading them off
>> before they go anyplace.

> Again, you change your story pretty quickly.

What story is there to change, Phildo?  Do you seriously think that we
just 
let our system sit there and ring? Are you nuts?  (yes).

> You told everybody here the idea of recording the gigs was to analyse
the 
> feedback on
> a PC, find out  what frequency it was and try to fix it for next week.

You made that up Phildo.

> I don't believe for a  second you are capable of getting rid of
feedback,

You're nuts Phildo. On the worst day of your life you can always get rid
of 
feedback, just jerk the main fader down. You mean you don't know that?

> especially with that  speaker in your church that everybody has told you

> needs
> to be moved.

Unhh, that I said needs to be moved. Trouble is Phildo, moving it takes 
resources that don't grow on trees. It's permanently mounted 27 feet above

the steps to the platform. It's in a 4' x 4' x 8' rectangular enclosure. 
It's composed of two large speaker boxes and two large horns.

> You  admitted yourself you have lots of feedback problems.

I run a system that due to the configuration is prone to feedback. We go
for 
weeks and months without even barely audible problems. I have to ring it
out 
pretty thoroughly after every reconfiguration.

>>> an occupation you claim is beneath your skills.
>>
>> That would be a figment of your imagination, Phildo. But
>> thanks for showing yourself to be a liar, yet again.

>
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.audio.pro.live-sound/browse_frm/thread/5cd83d15ceb3874a/2c79acdef7997f3a?lnk=st&q=#2c79acdef7997f3a

Phildo, your URL  is meaningles. It is a thread with 411 posts.  Do you
even 
know how to post a citation of a single post?

Come back when you actually have something to cite.


> - dear oh dear Arny, you do seem to love making a fool of
> yourself.

> "The fact that I have to figuratively brush shoulders with
> low-class bigoted poorly-educated s*** like you is simply
> part of the price I pay to get what I want.

Phildo, that was personal. It does not prove your point.

> As a rule upper class, well-educated people are not
> admired  when they are forced to associate beneath their status and
> position in life. Therefore, I have never expected you or
> George or any of a goodly number of other people around
> here  to respect me of think of me as their good buddy. "

Again Phildo the context is you and George, not the concept of live sound.

> A nice example of Arny thinking he is too good for the
> rest of us <snigger>.

No Phildo, just the low lifes like you and George. If you're saying that 
everybody here is low life like you, then the many good people who post
here 
should take offense at you, not me.

> "Most people think that sound guys are the s*** of the earth"

Now Phildo, that is an unfortunate fact of life, no doubt based on 
experiences with low-lifes like you and George.

> Another Arny classic line.

If you can't take life in the real world Phildo, then you've got a
problem.
 




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