Re: Not sure why my reply didn't take..RE, New Member

"Phildo" <Phil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Richard06" <vcravey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> I'll comment on one thing, but please don't respond to it.  I am a
>> Christian, but refusing to discuss that subject in here is not denying
>> my God, and He knows it.  Discussing it, I've quickly learned, dilutes
>> the wealth o knowledge on sound...especially in a thread not intended
>> for the discussion.  But being a newbee probably leaves me no right to
>> say so.  I'm not implying no one should go off-topic...I feel quite
>> the opposite, as you've seen.  Sometimes we need a break and this is a
>> great place to get it.  The only thing I'm implying is that I'm not
>> going to involve myself in religion--for or against it.  You all know
>> I'm a Christian, I know some in here aren't.
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> Glad to hear someone with a bit of sense for once. This is a place for
the 
> discussion of live sound not religion although some posters either
cannot 
> separate the two because their religious views affect every aspect of 
> their lives or they use the fact they are a xtian as an excuse for the 
> fact people look down on them when in fact it is purely down to their
lack 
> of live sound knowledge and lunatic behaviour.
>
> A couple more hints you should try to learn about EQ.
>
> First of all try running a CD player through the board and play with the

> EQ. You can do this on your own time instead of during a soundcheck/show

> and learn a lot that way. The Alan Parson's test CD is useful for this
as 
> it has tracks of solo instruments. The im****tance knowing how to use the

> EQ holds true for every bit of kit you use right through the signal
chain. 
> When I used to work at Brit Row I would spend as much time as I could 
> playing with the gear just to learn how to use it so that in a gig 
> situation I would be able to do what I wanted without having to go to
the 
> manual. Experience is everything.
>
> The other hint involves getting an ear for frequencies. I did it using a

> CD player, a pair of headphones, a CD of test tones played at random and
a 
> graphic EQ. I would hear a tone then cut sliders on the graphic until I 
> got the right one. Over time and with a lot of practice I got to
recognise 
> the frequencies and this is a huge advantage when doing sound,
especially 
> mixing monitors where feedback needs to be removed as quickly as
possible. 
> Someone on here took that idea and developed the SFT program which I'm 
> sure someone will post a link to. If not then email me off group and I 
> will happily send it to you. Is a really useful tool although I would 
> suggest using a proper pair of speakers and not the ones on your laptop.
>
> Phildo


I would just add that if one has some decent headphones, it might help to 
get a better 'image' of what that CD sounds like and then compare that to 
the sound coming out of one's system. Of course phones aren't gonna be 
completely flat, but a lot of times setting the graph on the system to be 
semi-even is gonna make any channel EQ down the road function a lot
better. 
And also, depending on how 'live' the piano or whatever is in the room,
the 
sound will be a combination of live sound & PA.  So it might be nice to
hear 
in the phones what is actually being picked up by the mics, and how that 
sounds by itself.  If it sounds like crap in the phones, it should be
looked 
at from the source, mic placement, type of mic, etc, rather that tryinng
to 
polish a bad source sound. And if you do have a decent sound in the
phones, 
listen to the live sound in the room and imagine what needs to be added
via 
the PA to create the sound or coverage you're looking for. Then EQ to find

that.


JL