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Re: odd !

by "liquidator" <mikeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM

"John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
> "liquidator" <mikeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:fustld$s7b$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:xGmQj.3189$I55.870@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> "liquidator" <mikeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:fusqul$hbc$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > "John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> > news:6olQj.7382$iK6.3772@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> > By the way, QC is a production issue, not an engineering issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why are you telling me this?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Cause you can't keep your story staright...
> >> >
> >> > 4/24 you said
> >> >
> >> > FWIW I worked in the engineering department at Zenith at the time.
I
> >> > remember it well because we had the same debate back then. Systems
guys
> >> > saying it wasn't possible and audio guys saying come and let us
show
> > you.
> >> > (we eventually played with this in the anechoic chamber)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Then you said...
> >> >
> >> > Fine. I was there, measured it myself, and measured the output as
the
> >> > digital volume control was clicked. For that sort of thing we used
a
> > Fluke
> >> > true RMS (20-20k or something) DMM that had a nifty relative dB
scale,
> >> > which
> >> > measured to .01 dB, and was biannually calibrated to NBS traceable
> >> > standards
> >> > because of the nature of my job (QA).
> >> >
> >> > So you were in the engineering department doing a job that would be
> >> > done
> >> > by
> >> > production?
> >> >
> >> > Liar, liar, pants on fire.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The QA function at Z was distinctly different from QC performed at
> >> production and assembly facilities. My job was to sit between
engineering
> >> and production, and sort out primary failure factors to end the
typical
> >> finger pointing. QC tested for safety, construction quality, and
> > operation,
> >> generally. I independently tested the same products for some of the
same
> >> things plus performance, adherence to specs, and longevity, with some
> >> fancy-ass and expensive AF, RF, and video equipment, in addition to a
> > whole
> >> slew of environmental rooms and chambers. "Yes, that cable decoder
will
> > work
> >> at 15,000 feet in 85% non-condensing rel humidity at +40 C, for at
least
> >> three weeks." "Yes, it meets relevant FCC regulatory specs and
performs
> >> as
> >> intended."
> >>
> >> You'll come up with something else, so whatever. I have other things
to
> >> worry about today. Friggin Microsoft Robotics Studio sucks.
> >>
> >>
> > Nice bit of dancing..
> >
> > Nah, I ain't got nothin' else...first you worked in engineering, then
you
> > sat between engineering and production..all this after you shot your
> > credibility to hell.
> >
> > Nothing to say...you have proven everything for me.
> >
>
> The dance steps are easy because I lived it for 4 years. That QA
function
> was established within the Reliability Eng dept, 2nd floor, Z HQ in
Glenview
> IL, between Milwaukee Ave and I-294. CATV Eng was down the hall one way,
> monitor eng another way. They all re****ted to the VP of Eng, Karl
> What****sname. Third floor was Color TV Eng, fourth was admin and the
CEO's
> office. Two more floors, but I don't recall what was there. They sold
the
> building a few years ago, Z is owned by LG now.
>
> The engineering task was "do they really step at 1dB?" and the debate
among
> us guys was "can you actually hear that?" Easy to test, and both proved
> affirmative.
>
> Time for lunch.
>
>

Arguments' way over...I believe something happened- I don't believe you
confirmed the remote's accuracy in an anechoic chamber...and i'm willing
to
just say hey, lets see what the future brings...

I'm a cranky old geezer and freely admit it.

But at the same time, I'm always willing to help an honest man. Posers
like
Arny need not apply...
 




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bjthedj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-22 23:33:53 
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"Sean Conolly"   2008-04-23 01:17:42 
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"George's Pro Sound   2008-04-23 08:03:49 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-23 08:48:44 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-23 15:39:56 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 16:20:43 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-23 12:01:49 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-23 16:06:09 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-23 16:58:04 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-23 17:21:39 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-24 08:47:15 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-24 20:28:52 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-24 16:19:45 
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0junk4me@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 15:09:04 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 18:59:03 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 19:12:42 
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"Joe L" <I'm  2008-04-25 00:50:42 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 21:25:58 
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"Joe L" <I'm  2008-04-26 08:41:37 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-26 14:49:07 
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"Ron(UK)" <r  2008-04-27 19:32:02 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-26 10:41:23 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 11:19:47 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 19:01:24 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-24 22:52:12 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 23:37:55 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-25 06:42:52 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-25 08:22:07 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-25 08:52:02 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-25 09:03:59 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-25 09:52:59 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-25 10:47:25 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-25 11:20:54 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-25 11:33:41 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-25 12:11:15 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-25 22:25:06 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-26 09:38:35 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 06:56:09 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-26 13:23:36 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-26 10:45:39 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 11:23:52 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-27 12:13:42 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-26 06:53:03 
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"mcsteve" <m  2008-04-23 22:21:31 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-24 03:47:03 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 00:11:40 
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"Phildo" <Ph  2008-04-24 19:42:39 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-24 15:29:33 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-24 19:06:06 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-25 06:31:26 
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"George's Pro Sound   2008-04-23 12:43:31 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 18:27:42 
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"Joe L" <I'm  2008-04-23 19:40:15 
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"Ron(UK)" <r  2008-04-23 21:05:53 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 21:25:15 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 21:21:42 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-23 15:59:56 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-23 21:22:31 
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"John O" <jo  2008-04-24 08:48:25 
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"Arny Krueger"   2008-04-25 06:47:12 
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"Joe L" <I'm  2008-04-23 19:01:06 
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"liquidator" &l  2008-04-23 08:45:55 
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Bmoas <bmoas@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 07:17:19 
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"Joe L" <I'm  2008-04-24 20:17:13 
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FatBoySlimFast <steveN  2008-04-24 23:44:27 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-25 13:45:14 

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