"John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "liquidator" <mikeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "liquidator" <mikeh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > "John O" <johnospamalot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> > By the way, QC is a production issue, not an engineering issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why are you telling me this?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Cause you can't keep your story staright...
> >> >
> >> > 4/24 you said
> >> >
> >> > FWIW I worked in the engineering department at Zenith at the time.
I
> >> > remember it well because we had the same debate back then. Systems
guys
> >> > saying it wasn't possible and audio guys saying come and let us
show
> > you.
> >> > (we eventually played with this in the anechoic chamber)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Then you said...
> >> >
> >> > Fine. I was there, measured it myself, and measured the output as
the
> >> > digital volume control was clicked. For that sort of thing we used
a
> > Fluke
> >> > true RMS (20-20k or something) DMM that had a nifty relative dB
scale,
> >> > which
> >> > measured to .01 dB, and was biannually calibrated to NBS traceable
> >> > standards
> >> > because of the nature of my job (QA).
> >> >
> >> > So you were in the engineering department doing a job that would be
> >> > done
> >> > by
> >> > production?
> >> >
> >> > Liar, liar, pants on fire.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The QA function at Z was distinctly different from QC performed at
> >> production and assembly facilities. My job was to sit between
engineering
> >> and production, and sort out primary failure factors to end the
typical
> >> finger pointing. QC tested for safety, construction quality, and
> > operation,
> >> generally. I independently tested the same products for some of the
same
> >> things plus performance, adherence to specs, and longevity, with some
> >> fancy-ass and expensive AF, RF, and video equipment, in addition to a
> > whole
> >> slew of environmental rooms and chambers. "Yes, that cable decoder
will
> > work
> >> at 15,000 feet in 85% non-condensing rel humidity at +40 C, for at
least
> >> three weeks." "Yes, it meets relevant FCC regulatory specs and
performs
> >> as
> >> intended."
> >>
> >> You'll come up with something else, so whatever. I have other things
to
> >> worry about today. Friggin Microsoft Robotics Studio sucks.
> >>
> >>
> > Nice bit of dancing..
> >
> > Nah, I ain't got nothin' else...first you worked in engineering, then
you
> > sat between engineering and production..all this after you shot your
> > credibility to hell.
> >
> > Nothing to say...you have proven everything for me.
> >
>
> The dance steps are easy because I lived it for 4 years. That QA
function
> was established within the Reliability Eng dept, 2nd floor, Z HQ in
Glenview
> IL, between Milwaukee Ave and I-294. CATV Eng was down the hall one way,
> monitor eng another way. They all re****ted to the VP of Eng, Karl
> What****sname. Third floor was Color TV Eng, fourth was admin and the
CEO's
> office. Two more floors, but I don't recall what was there. They sold
the
> building a few years ago, Z is owned by LG now.
>
> The engineering task was "do they really step at 1dB?" and the debate
among
> us guys was "can you actually hear that?" Easy to test, and both proved
> affirmative.
>
> Time for lunch.
>
>
Arguments' way over...I believe something happened- I don't believe you
confirmed the remote's accuracy in an anechoic chamber...and i'm willing
to
just say hey, lets see what the future brings...
I'm a cranky old geezer and freely admit it.
But at the same time, I'm always willing to help an honest man. Posers
like
Arny need not apply...


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