"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> George's Pro Sound Company wrote:
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>> and I can tune instrument strings to within 1000th of a cent
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> And you accuse ARNY of posting nonsense ????
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> Graham
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Um Graham, as a player, I should be able to comment that they *do* tune
some
instruments by ear. Like in the olden days. Ever heard a piano tuned
perfectly to a stobe tuner? It sounds like a banjo, lol.
But seriously, other than maybe the reference note A-440, George's
comments
aren't out of line. If an experienced player can't tune without a tuner,
THAT would be the the guy with the bad ears and the exception, not the
other
way around. Sure there are lots of lazy examples and boozy/drugged out
players that have poor tuning, but learning to hear the 'out of tune
beats'
of two unison notes and tuning to eliminate them is just basic musician
skills. You'd have to be deaf to miss it.
The reason for electronic tuners is for of course the convenience( silent
operation, reference note), and the inconsistencies that the equal
tempered
tuning method and design many of the instruments themselves have built in.
A
perfectly in tune guitar is just a close standard. Because of equal
temperment tuning the tuner keeps all string at about the same 'slightly
off', I'm not saying you can't really tune by ear, but an experienced
player has to make compensation for equal temperment, and the setup of the
actual inst as well.
But the point I guess is that the strobe tuner is quick and easy, just
like
the PFL metering. Takes the guess work out of a boring adjustment, and
makes
it quick as well.
Now unless George is talking about NO reference note, that would imply
Perfect Pitch, and yes that is possible. Even non-perfect pitch players
can
usually string up a gtr to amazingly close to standard pitch, but not
within
1000cent. That would be a stretch.
JL


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