Julian <JulianPAdamsNo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:25:45 GMT, SamSez <samtheman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>>Well yes, but does this plot not show a 20db boost at the bass end of
>>the mz-rh1 as well -- as well as showing a noise floor higher than the
>>worst noise from the h2:
>>
>>http://beale.best.vwh.net/measure/audio/MZ-RH1_MIC.htm
>>
>>A smoother noise curve certainly, but still louder, yes?
>
> The bass boost looks more like 35 dB on some of the H2/H4 graphs you
> supplied, so no,the bass boost is not even close.
>
> As far as showing a noise floor higher or not, it all depends on how
> much gain the mic preamps are being forced to supply. One needs to
> know that both graphs show the exact same amplification to make a
> comparison. Otherwise it's like that guy saying "I can hear the
> spikes on the H2" ANYBODY can hear the spikes if they are AMPLIFIED
> enough.
>
> If you short the input of a preamp and turn it up or down the noise
> floor as shown on your graph will of course go up or down, right?
>
>>[and sure, we can get into differences in hardware and measurement
>>techniques, but if we go there, we can blame the spikes on the same
>>differences...]
>
> 20 dB spikes are not subtle. They are present on 3 Samson bench tests
> that I have seen but not present on any bench tests I have seen or
> heard of for MD units.
>
> Also read how the test were done. The H2 test was done by recording
> off the mics in a quiet room with the recorder under a pillow. The MD
> test didn't use a mic at all but rather a 1 kHz test tone fed in from
> a sound card.
>
> Test results are all about comparing results to know standards and
> reference levels, otherwise the are meaningless. If one graph appears
> to be 10 dB quieter than another but it is supplying 20 dB less gain,
> then it is in truth noisier.
>
> Julian
>
>
You quote the h2 bass boost to an accuracy of 5db, but brush off the
difference in noise floor based on measurement technique. Nothing like
having it both ways...
Buy one where you can take it back and compare it yourself. For my use,
my h2 is as good as my rh1, and with the h2's built-in multi-pattern
mics, no motor noise, and trivial file handling on any PC, it's the unit
I pick up first.
On the other hand, if you need to use an external mic, the h2 sucks -- at
least with the mics I've tried. But that's not what I use it for.
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