On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:19:52 -0700, Julian wrote
(in article <b609g3la7jom2ubrar5fsnj3gre1a5kqgo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:33:19 -0700, Sonnova
> <sonnova@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> There is noise, but I doubt seriously is you would ever hear it.
>
> The guy who made the more recent post said he could hear the spikes,
> but you can hear most anything if you pump it up loud enough in your
> ears so I don't know if that means anything at all. the thing that
> bugs me however about the noise is the spikey nature. You'll normally
> see a nice flat steady jagged but even noise curve. This thing has
> such extreme spikes it makes me wonder what harmonics are doing in
> higher octaves and if they are interfering with the digital encoding
> and creating digital errors. I'm guessing the fact you see more
> spikes as you go up in frequency that these are being created by sum &
> differences of the lower frequency spikes. Also the way the noise
> curve is heavily slanted toward the bass end is pretty weird too.
Yes it is weird. It's almost as if the thing is designed to boost all bass
(perhaps to make the cheap, included electret mikes sound better?) and the
noise gets boosted on the same curve.
> There is some question in my mind if the noise warrants 16 bit
> recording much less 24 bit. Then there is the frequency response
> issue which wasn't addressed in the H2 review so it may or may not
> have been fixed. Personally I'm chomping at the bit for a nice flash
> recorder but haven't seen one yet I would buy.
>
> The link someone posted to the new lower priced Sony flash recorder
> looks promising but it is a lot more expensive than the H2. I guess
> you get what you pay for. one nice thing about minidiscs in the past
> has been that they are generally thought to have decent preamps. Not
> so good that some still think it necessary to add external preamps,
> but at least better than what it appears the H2 has.
That is true. I have been happy with recordings made on MiniDisc. Either
using my sony ECM-929LT M-S stereo microphone straight-in or using a mixer
into the line input, The MiniDisc seems quiet and the recordings sound
very
professional.
>> This is
>> clearly not a pro-level device, and I think I'll wait awhile until
>> something
>> better breaks ground. I've handled the Edirol and I don't like the way
it
>> feels. It might have good specs but seems flimsy to me.
>
> I wasn't too impressed the one time I held one in my hand either.
>
>> I have my laptop and
>> a A/D converter to go with it , and it makes excellent digital
recordings,
>> so
>> I'll use it for a while as I wait for the SS recorder market to sort
itself
>> out.
>
> Unfortunately, I'd have to agree. It's hard for me to understand
> since the noise specs of minidisc have been fairly good why the
> M-Audio and Samson have been re****ted to have lots of garbage. You'd
> think we've already solved those problems in small inexpensive
> ****table units.
True. I also have to wonder why there aren't more of these devices on the
market. After all, in these days of large-scale integration, it can't be
too
hard or too expensive to make SS recorders.
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