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Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?

by Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 03:12 PM

On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:59:21 -0700, Beta Zero wrote
(in article
<Pine.LNX.4.44.0805011145140.28045-100000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

>> "Beta Zero"  wrote in ...
>>> (Trying to record a music band outdoors)
>>> 
>>> Please give me some advice-
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking of digitally recording an outdoor musical performance 
>>> in late June 2008, and I am worried that some microphones are 
>>> subject to failure, or at least an unusual performance of some kind, 
>>> if the microphones - or the wire hookups - sit around baking in the 
>>> sun.  If the weather is in the mid 90s F, in the shade, and even 
>>> worse in direct sunlight, should I take precautions like shading the 
>>> microphones in the shade of an umbrella or parasol?  Or am I 
>>> worrying about something that's not worrying about?
>> 
>> Lots of microphones are used in direct sunlight in hot places.
> 
> In the olden days, microphones had membranous diaphragms of some kind, 
> and the way these things responded to vibrations, had a lot to do with 
> the frequencies transmitted.  I figured that a 'hot' microphone would 
> produce a different range of sounds than a 'cold' one.
> 
>> If you are operating in harsh conditions, then use microphones
>> that are made for field use. For example, dynamic mics are
>> likely less susceptable to either tem****ary or permanent
>> damage from ambient heat.
>> 
>>> I won't have access to AC current, as I'll be running off batteries;
>>> that also means there isn't going to be an amplifying system, and 
>>> the performers will just sit around strumming their strings, or 
>>> banging their drums, or whatever.  I figured that decibel 
>>> alterations will be available to me during post production editing.  
>>> (Yes, there will also be some cameras around, but I don't want to 
>>> use their microphones as they may be around 30 or 40 feet away from 
>>> the performers.)
>> 
>> You didn't mention what you are recording on/with?
> 
> An Olympus LS-10,.  Will that work?  It's on order.  I understood that 
> you can plug 4 microphones into it.  The software package is iListen 
> for an unexpanded Mac 'mini.'  I am gritting my teeth for the nerve and 
> reserve to buy a Marantz, it's just that it is kind of spendy, so I 
> have to put that off for a couple weeks.  Ditto with regards to the 
> microphones.  But all the hardware has to be in my hands by mid-June.
> 
>>> Which microphones are best for this sort of situation?  I haven't
>>> bought them yet, and noticed that some microphones are very 
>>> expensive.  My budget is $800 for microphones alone (at about $150 
>>> apiece) but I would like to divvy that up between two separate 
>>> recording systems,
> 
> I.e., two microphones per performer.

>>> where each music performer has two microphones on stands, and
>>> if the first system fails, the second system is bound to pick 
>>> something up.
>> 
>> The old standby Shure SM57 & 58 will likely take the heat and
>> they are cheap enough to have 100% backup on your budget.
> 
> At a hundred bucks apiece, 8 microphones would eat up the entire
> $800 budget.  I was hoping the secondary microphones - attached to 
> the backup recording system - could be in the $50 to $60 range.  
> Would that be a bad idea?

Try a pair of the Behringer  C-2s. They come as a stereo pair of cardioid 
condenser mikes complete with a T-Bar and retail for about $50/pair in
their 
own fitted case. They are excellent for vocals, piano, drum sets, etc.
BTW, 
they come with foam "wind socks" to help attenuate wind noise.
 




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Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
Beta Zero <beta_zero@[  2008-05-01 11:59:21 
Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
"Charles Tomaras&quo  2008-05-01 13:06:43 
Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
Sonnova <sonnova@[EMAI  2008-05-01 15:12:40 
Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
Ty Ford <tyreeford@[EM  2008-05-02 09:44:20 
Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
don pearce <nospam@[EM  2008-05-02 14:52:28 
Re: 90 degrees in the shade - mic failure?
jakdedert <jakdedert@[  2008-05-02 09:37:36 

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