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Re: Good Lav Mic?

by "Michael Eickemeier" <Meickemeier@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM

AGC may be the way to go. Adjust it so you don't have feedback at max.
gain, 
and let it attenuate when the yelling starts. The Sennheiser is a good 
wireless, I don't think that you would gain anything by buying a different

system or different mic.
One piece of equipment I can highly recommend is the Shure DFR22 Audio 
processor. It also has built-in automatic feedback protection. You should
be 
able to get it for under $600.

"TimPerry" <timperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:G8CdnUP-b9cDH2TYnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lim wrote:
>> In addition to what I've written in the post, you'll also need a good
>> compressor/limiter to keep it from clipping. A good digital mixer will
>> allow you to set all the AGC, compressor/limiter and even do
>> automixing
>> to cut mics that are not in use are turned off to reduce potential
>> feedback.
>>
>> Robert Hendrickson wrote:
>>> Thank you Tim
>>> we are looking in the 400.00 - 600.00 dollars range. The problem we
>>> have, we are using sennhiser EW 122 and the issue is two fold; 1st
>>> the mic has a range in use that is very tight. 10dbs for speaking,
>>> 20 and 30 for singing. if I set it to 10 dbs then when the speakers
>>> clips the mic when he yells or get loud, this also occurs at 20 dbs
>>> to a lesser degree. When I set it to 30 dbs the volume is to low for
>>> soft speaking.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Rob Hendrickson, Crossroad Church
>>>
>>> "TimPerry" <timperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:6u-dnXl514oaqWzYnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Robert Hendrickson wrote:
>>>>> Hello all;
>>>>> I am looking for a Good Lav, lapel mic for live Church setting. The
>>>>> speaker like to travel around the room, or at least of the stage.
>>>>> He also uses a fairly large vocal range, wisper to scream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Rob
>>>> just the mic or an entire wreless system?
>>>>
>>>> budget range?
>>>>
>>>> with that kind of dynamic range you will need a comp/limiter
>
> i suspect the problem is not an issue with the mic system itself, rather

> the
> use.
>
> if mic sensitivity is adjusted to minimum and you still get overload 
> further
> reduction can be obtained by adding layers if windscreen foam and/or 
> moving
> the mic further from the sound source.
>
> sometimes the mic element itself goes bad or gets noisy.  a new lav 
> element
> restores the system to perfect operation.
> if this is the case a Countryman brand mic element is one of the best. 
> thay
> are not cheap but will cost less then replacing your system.
>
> in the case of a whisperer... just let him whisper and don't push up the
> gain. he is doing it for dramatic effect. he wants people to listen in
> breathless anticipation.  pu****ng the gain merely enhances background 
> noise
> and increases the probability of feedback.
>
> IMO adding an AGC or gated AGC will be very problematic in terms of 
> feedback
> control with a lav system.
> even using a compressor will require careful setting and equalization.
>
> with presentations like this usually a handheld mic is used and the 
> speaker
> starts out with the mic somewhere around his or her navel so the poor 
> sound
> guy has to struggle to pick anything up. then as the presentation builds

> the
> speaker moves the mic closer in until finally they are practically 
> screaming
> into it.
>
> in cases like this having a comp/limiter in the mic path or on the
system 
> as
> a whole would be a wise idea to prevent the pa system from clipping and
> possible speaker damage.
>
> the EW 122 has a dynamic range of about 110 dB see specs at
> http://www.sennheiser.com/
> the -30 dB setting might be used if the mic is clipped to a loud 
> instrument
> (i.e. trumpet)
>
> the 120 dB max sound pressure level is respectible.
>
>
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Good Lav Mic?
"Robert Hendrickson&  2007-03-06 22:32:15 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-09 05:18:52 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"Robert Hendrickson&  2007-03-10 21:09:21 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
lim <cyril.lim@[EMAIL   2007-03-14 17:43:53 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
lim <cyril.lim@[EMAIL   2007-03-15 10:18:12 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-15 12:47:50 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-15 13:29:06 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"Michael Eickemeier&  2008-02-11 12:16:35 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
yepthisismyemail@[EMAIL P  2007-03-17 01:18:34 

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