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Re: Good Lav Mic?

by "TimPerry" <timperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 15, 2007 at 01:29 PM

lim wrote:
> In addition to what I've written in the post, you'll also need a good
> compressor/limiter to keep it from clipping. A good digital mixer will
> allow you to set all the AGC, compressor/limiter and even do
> automixing
> to cut mics that are not in use are turned off to reduce potential
> feedback.
>
> Robert Hendrickson wrote:
>> Thank you Tim
>> we are looking in the 400.00 - 600.00 dollars range. The problem we
>> have, we are using sennhiser EW 122 and the issue is two fold; 1st
>> the mic has a range in use that is very tight. 10dbs for speaking,
>> 20 and 30 for singing. if I set it to 10 dbs then when the speakers
>> clips the mic when he yells or get loud, this also occurs at 20 dbs
>> to a lesser degree. When I set it to 30 dbs the volume is to low for
>> soft speaking.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Rob Hendrickson, Crossroad Church
>>
>> "TimPerry" <timperry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:6u-dnXl514oaqWzYnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Robert Hendrickson wrote:
>>>> Hello all;
>>>> I am looking for a Good Lav, lapel mic for live Church setting. The
>>>> speaker like to travel around the room, or at least of the stage.
>>>> He also uses a fairly large vocal range, wisper to scream.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Rob
>>> just the mic or an entire wreless system?
>>>
>>> budget range?
>>>
>>> with that kind of dynamic range you will need a comp/limiter

i suspect the problem is not an issue with the mic system itself, rather
the
use.

if mic sensitivity is adjusted to minimum and you still get overload
further
reduction can be obtained by adding layers if windscreen foam and/or
moving
the mic further from the sound source.

sometimes the mic element itself goes bad or gets noisy.  a new lav
element
restores the system to perfect operation.
if this is the case a Countryman brand mic element is one of the best.
thay
are not cheap but will cost less then replacing your system.

in the case of a whisperer... just let him whisper and don't push up the
gain. he is doing it for dramatic effect. he wants people to listen in
breathless anticipation.  pu****ng the gain merely enhances background
noise
and increases the probability of feedback.

IMO adding an AGC or gated AGC will be very problematic in terms of
feedback
control with a lav system.
even using a compressor will require careful setting and equalization.

with presentations like this usually a handheld mic is used and the
speaker
starts out with the mic somewhere around his or her navel so the poor
sound
guy has to struggle to pick anything up. then as the presentation builds
the
speaker moves the mic closer in until finally they are practically
screaming
into it.

in cases like this having a comp/limiter in the mic path or on the system
as
a whole would be a wise idea to prevent the pa system from clipping and
possible speaker damage.

the EW 122 has a dynamic range of about 110 dB see specs at
http://www.sennheiser.com/
the -30 dB setting might be used if the mic is clipped to a loud
instrument
(i.e. trumpet)

the 120 dB max sound pressure level is respectible.
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Good Lav Mic?
"Robert Hendrickson&  2007-03-06 22:32:15 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-09 05:18:52 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"Robert Hendrickson&  2007-03-10 21:09:21 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
lim <cyril.lim@[EMAIL   2007-03-14 17:43:53 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
lim <cyril.lim@[EMAIL   2007-03-15 10:18:12 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-15 12:47:50 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"TimPerry" <  2007-03-15 13:29:06 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
"Michael Eickemeier&  2008-02-11 12:16:35 
Re: Good Lav Mic?
yepthisismyemail@[EMAIL P  2007-03-17 01:18:34 

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