On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:55:24 -0800, jamesgangnc wrote
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> On Feb 28, 3:29 pm, Sonnova <sonn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:25:01 -0800, jamesgangnc wrote
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>>> On Feb 27, 3:59 pm, Sonnova <sonn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:11:16 -0800, jamesgangnc wrote
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>>>>> On Feb 26, 5:19 pm, Sonnova <sonn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:42:00 -0800, jamesgangnc wrote
>>>>>> (in article
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>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 3:30 pm, Sonnova <sonn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:13:12 -0800, jamesgangnc wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article <13s84373qjuk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> The headphone jack is only going to provide stereo, or at best
analog
>>>>>>>>> surround. You need to get a digital output from your mac and
not
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> something that hooks to the headphone jack either. Taking the
analog
>>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>>> from the headphone jack is never going to get you back to
digital
>>>>>>>>> 5.1.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't know squat about macs but you probably should have gone to
the
>>>>>>>>> apple
>>>>>>>>> store. After you shelled over the appropriate bucks then they
will
>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> up. Gotta love that proprietary apple stuff.
>>
>>>>>>>> Apple "stuff" isn't very proprietary these days. In fact, they
sup****t
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> of the modern standards that your standard Windows laptop
sup****ts and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> some (Firewire is standard, for instance). What you need for most
>>>>>>>> laptops
>>>>>>>> (Windows or Mac) is a USB to surround-sound processor in order to
>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Logitech system. IOW, one of these:
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>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2fqgtm
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>>>>>>>> Or similar.
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>>>>>>>>> "Robert" <kurtis.bax...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> m.
>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I purchased the logitech z5500 5.1 system and i'd like to hook
it up
>>>>>>>>>> to my macbook. i suppose with a dvd player or ps2, it's just a
>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>> of getting an optical cable and plugging it in.. but i'm not
sure
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> to go about doing it on a computer with only a headphone
jack... do
>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>> just need the optical cable (called toslink?) and then get a
toslink
>>>>>>>>>> mini adapter and i'm all set? will this mini adapter work in
the
>>>>>>>>>> headphone jack?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot!!!!!!
>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Do you know the difference between students like you, amateurs
and
>>>>>>>> professional jazz musicians? Student bands and amateurs "almost"
>>>>>>>> swing!
>>
>>>>>>>> Fred Berry
>>>>>>>> Professor of Music
>>>>>>>> Stanford University
>>
>>>>>>> Yea, $80, swell. No-name pc sound card for $15. I'll stick to
pcs.
>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, but how are you gonna put a $15 no-name sound card into
a PC
>>>>>> Notebook? Notebooks need outboard surround decoders too. There are
>>>>>> cheaper
>>>>>> ones, for the Mac and the PC. I chose the $80 one as an example
because
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> FireWire.
>>
>>>>>> Oh, and I can put a $15 PC sound card into a Mac tower too because
it
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> -wait for it- PCI card slots just like a Windows box!
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Do you know the difference between students like you, amateurs and
>>>>>> professional jazz musicians? Student bands and amateurs "almost"
swing!
>>
>>>>>> Fred Berry
>>>>>> Professor of Music
>>>>>> Stanford University- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>> Oh wait, you need drivers too? That's too bad. Yea, mac wants to
be
>>>>> a pc but it just can't.
>>
>>>> Actually, the Mac doesn't need drivers for the USB or Firewire 5.1
>>>> decoder (
>>>> a Windows laptop needs that outboard decoder too). But I notice that
you
>>>> ignored that point.
>>
>>>> Macs and PCs are just two sides of the same coin. One has advantages
in
>>>> one
>>>> area while the other has advantages in other areas. Mac has the
better OS,
>>>> in
>>>> my not-so-humble opinion, but Windows has more of the popular
business
>>>> software titles. I'm pretty system agnostic and use both. A computer
is a
>>>> tool, not a religion.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> We were talking about your claim that a mac can take any pc card
>>> because it has a pci slot. Specialized pci cards for the most part
>>> require drivers and there are lots of pci cards for pcs that won't do
>>> anything in a mac because the vendor didn't write a driver for the
>>> mac.
>>
>> You might have been talking about that, I was talking about the
subject,
>> which was that the OP had a Macbook that he wanted to connect a
Logitech
>> z5500 to and couldn't do 5.1 surround, because, like almost all
notebook
>> computers, both Mac and Windows, it didn't have surround-sound outputs.
I
>> suggested one of a number of outboard USB or Firewire 5.1
surround-sound
>> adapters, and that these didn't need drivers on Macs.
>>
>> I am aware that almost all PCI cards require drivers, but there are a
number
>> of cheap sound cards that sup****t the Intel-based Macs.
>>
>> --
>> Do you know the difference between students like you, amateurs and
>> professional jazz musicians? Student bands and amateurs "almost" swing!
>>
>> Fred Berry
>> Professor of Music
>> Stanford University- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> "Oh, and I can put a $15 PC sound card into a Mac tower too because it
> has
> -wait for it- PCI card slots just like a Windows box! "
>
> Pci slots do not a pc a mac make.
>
>
I never said that it does. I just said that any Mac user with a Mac tower
can
install a number of different sound cards at all price-points in their
machines. If you have an Intel Mac tower, you can run Windows and Mac OSX
on
the same machine at full performance for both (that's what I do). I bought
an
Intel Tower Mac just because I can run WIndows NT (don't like Vista), Mac
OSX
and X11 Unix apps all at native speed, all on the same machine, and all at
the same time sharing data between all three. One box does it all. That's
pretty impressive to most people (Mac haters excepted - nothing Apple
could
do would make them happy - except to go out of business).
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